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the Trump rally, that's not here. Sorry.

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the Trump rally, that's not here. Sorry.
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working group. I also work for 17 years

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working group. I also work for 17 years
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in Idaho and Utah. Uh and for 12 years,
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Central Labor Council, AFL CIO. And some

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Central Labor Council, AFL CIO. And some
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99%. And uh we are recording our event.
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a amazing thing for Mayday, right? Um,
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face of oligarchy. While oligarchy is

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about the history of Mayday. Um but uh I
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same issues that we are now. Rising uh

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poor working conditions, all of that.

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of strike. Um, so 1935, President uh,

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of strike. Um, so 1935, President uh,
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not Theodore, Franklin Roosevelt

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not Theodore, Franklin Roosevelt
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uh, decided he couldn't let that stand.

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uh, decided he couldn't let that stand.
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Uh, something had to be done about this.

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Uh, something had to be done about this.
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You can't just let the US economy stop.

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You can't just let the US economy stop.
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So he passed the National Labor

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Relations Act, uh, NL for short. Um, and

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Relations Act, uh, NL for short. Um, and
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the purpose of this was twofold. Um one

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the purpose of this was twofold. Um one
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it was to give

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it was to give
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uh you know it was to cottify the rights

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uh you know it was to cottify the rights
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of workers um to form unions uh and

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of workers um to form unions uh and
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negotiate with their employers. Um but

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negotiate with their employers. Um but
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on the other hand uh it was mainly just

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on the other hand uh it was mainly just
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to get the strikes to stop uh and sedate

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to get the strikes to stop uh and sedate
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workers for a little bit by giving them

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workers for a little bit by giving them
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this and um uh you know letting the the

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this and um uh you know letting the the
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Um

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Um

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so one of the things uh we'll we'll skip

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so one of the things uh we'll we'll skip
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the whole process of forming a union for

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the whole process of forming a union for
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now how how that's done. Um so let's say

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now how how that's done. Um so let's say
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majority of workers get together they

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majority of workers get together they
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want to form a union. They form a union

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want to form a union. They form a union
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and now they're negotiating with their

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and now they're negotiating with their
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employer. Um at the end of that

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employer. Um at the end of that
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negotiation process uh there comes a

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negotiation process uh there comes a
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collective bargaining agreement um or a

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collective bargaining agreement um or a
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contract. Um and one of the ways that uh

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contract. Um and one of the ways that uh
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this sort of defanged the labor movement

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this sort of defanged the labor movement
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in the in uh you know the 1930s and

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in the in uh you know the 1930s and
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onward um was uh two things that are uh

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onward um was uh two things that are uh
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added to most if not all uh collective

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added to most if not all uh collective

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bargaining collective bargaining

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bargaining collective bargaining
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agreements. The first uh is a grievance

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agreements. The first uh is a grievance
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and arbitration system. Um, and

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and arbitration system. Um, and
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basically what that is is a way for

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basically what that is is a way for
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workers to file grievances, you know, if

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workers to file grievances, you know, if
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the employer's violating the contract.

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the employer's violating the contract.
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Um, then they can file a grievance. Uh,

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Um, then they can file a grievance. Uh,
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you know, there's there's a whole legal

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you know, there's there's a whole legal
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framework for that. Um, but the more

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framework for that. Um, but the more
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important part of that is the no strike,

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important part of that is the no strike,
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no lockout clause. And what that did,

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no lockout clause. And what that did,
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uh, was it for the duration of the

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uh, was it for the duration of the
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contract, um, it didn't allow uh, unions

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contract, um, it didn't allow uh, unions
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to walk out on strike. and it didn't

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to walk out on strike. and it didn't
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allow employers to lock out unions. Uh

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allow employers to lock out unions. Uh
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also called an employer side strike. Um

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also called an employer side strike. Um
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which is how it stopped the strikes.

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which is how it stopped the strikes.
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Um so fast forward to now. Why why is

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Um so fast forward to now. Why why is
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this important? Why am I talking about

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this important? Why am I talking about
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some legislation from 100 years ago?

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some legislation from 100 years ago?
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518
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Well um a lot of unions have existed

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Well um a lot of unions have existed
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within this framework for a long time.

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within this framework for a long time.
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522
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Um and a lot of them have given way to

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Um and a lot of them have given way to
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524
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the rise of business unions, also called

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the rise of business unions, also called
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526
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top- down unions. Uh basically they're

527
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top- down unions. Uh basically they're
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528
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run like a corporation. Um you have the

529
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run like a corporation. Um you have the
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president at the top and they make all

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president at the top and they make all
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532
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the decisions and you know there's some

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the decisions and you know there's some
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leadership here and there but the

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leadership here and there but the
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members really don't get a say.

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members really don't get a say.
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Um and it it it really gives way to

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Um and it it it really gives way to
corruption.

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corruption.

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corruption.
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Um, and some of you may know of the

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Um, and some of you may know of the
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United Auto Workers, uh, UAW for short.

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United Auto Workers, uh, UAW for short.
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546
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Uh, they were a business union like

547
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Uh, they were a business union like
this,

548
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this,

549
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this,
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550
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um, until, I believe, 2023.

551
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um, until, I believe, 2023.
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552
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Um, the process started before that. Uh,

553
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Um, the process started before that. Uh,
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554
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but there was a reform caucus within,

555
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but there was a reform caucus within,
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556
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uh, within the UAW that, uh, called uh,

557
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uh, within the UAW that, uh, called uh,
hold

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hold

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hold
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on uh, all unite all workers for

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on uh, all unite all workers for
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democracy, right, Mark? That's right.

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democracy, right, Mark? That's right.
Okay.

564
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Okay.

565
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Okay.
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566
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Um, and they use this structured

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Um, and they use this structured
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568
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organizing method that I was talking

569
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organizing method that I was talking
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570
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about before to uh get their members

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about before to uh get their members
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572
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more involved, get supermajorities and

573
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more involved, get supermajorities and
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574
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oust their leadership um, and put in a

575
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oust their leadership um, and put in a
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576
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new president of the UAW and his name is

577
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new president of the UAW and his name is
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Sean Feain, who some of you might have

579
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Sean Feain, who some of you might have

580
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582
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583
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Um since 2023 when he was elected um

584
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Um since 2023 when he was elected um
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585
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they have had a ve they in 2023 they had

586
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they have had a ve they in 2023 they had
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587
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a very successful strike and that was

588
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a very successful strike and that was
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589
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due in no small part to the

590
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due in no small part to the
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591
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structure-based organizing uh the super

592
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structure-based organizing uh the super
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593
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majorities obtained in in UAW

594
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majorities obtained in in UAW
workplaces.

595
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workplaces.

596
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workplaces.
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597
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Um and shortly thereafter, uh Sean Feain

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Um and shortly thereafter, uh Sean Feain
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began calling for a general strike in

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began calling for a general strike in
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601
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2028. Um more specifically, uh he called

602
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2028. Um more specifically, uh he called
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603
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for all unions in the country to uh

604
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for all unions in the country to uh
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605
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negotiate for their contracts to expire

606
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negotiate for their contracts to expire
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607
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on May 1st of 2028.

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on May 1st of 2028.
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609
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Um, and what that does, uh, like I was

610
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Um, and what that does, uh, like I was
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611
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saying before, there's a no strike, no

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saying before, there's a no strike, no
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613
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lockout clause in most contracts.

614
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lockout clause in most contracts.
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615
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But if your contract expires and you

616
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But if your contract expires and you
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617
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don't have another contract agreed upon,

618
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don't have another contract agreed upon,
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619
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then the it's null and void. There is no

620
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then the it's null and void. There is no
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621
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no strike no lockout clause. Um, and you

622
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no strike no lockout clause. Um, and you
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623
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can basically do whatever you want. You

624
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can basically do whatever you want. You
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625
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can go on strike whenever you want. Um

626
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can go on strike whenever you want. Um
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627
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which means uh that if all unions uh

628
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which means uh that if all unions uh
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contracts expire on Mayday, then all

630
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contracts expire on Mayday, then all
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631
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unions can strike at the same

632
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unions can strike at the same
time.

633
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time.

634
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time.

635
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636
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Um but why

637
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Um but why
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638
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2028? It it gives us time to organ

639
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2028? It it gives us time to organ
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640
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because structured organizing takes a

641
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because structured organizing takes a
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642
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lot of time. You you've probably seen a

643
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lot of time. You you've probably seen a
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644
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lot of these protests happening um you

645
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lot of these protests happening um you
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646
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know the 50501 protests.

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know the 50501 protests.
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648
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um they can be thrown together and you

649
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um they can be thrown together and you
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650
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you can protest in a day, but structured

651
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you can protest in a day, but structured
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652
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or structure-based organizing takes a

653
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or structure-based organizing takes a
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654
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lot of time because you have to talk to

655
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lot of time because you have to talk to
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656
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every single person in the structure.

657
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every single person in the structure.
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658
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Um so,

659
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Um so,
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660
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uh you know, two years ago is is when he

661
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uh you know, two years ago is is when he
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662
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started calling for this and we're kind

663
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started calling for this and we're kind
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of running out of time. Um 3 years 3

665
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of running out of time. Um 3 years 3
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666
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years from now is kind of a lot of time,

667
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years from now is kind of a lot of time,
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668
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but it's also really not. Um because uh

669
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but it's also really not. Um because uh
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670
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what we're looking for is

671
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what we're looking for is
supermajorities.

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supermajorities.

673
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supermajorities.
Um

674
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Um

675
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Um
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676
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but I mean why general strike? What what

677
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but I mean why general strike? What what
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678
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are we why are we even talking about

679
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are we why are we even talking about
this?

680
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this?

681
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this?
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682
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Um because of the way that this

683
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Um because of the way that this
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684
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organizing works. It it gives us the

685
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organizing works. It it gives us the
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most realistic possibility for fighting

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most realistic possibility for fighting
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for the change that we want to see, for

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for the change that we want to see, for
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690
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fighting for universal health care. um

691
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fighting for universal health care. um
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you know, the 4-day work week, paid sick

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you know, the 4-day work week, paid sick
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leave, that sort of thing. Um and uh

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leave, that sort of thing. Um and uh
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696
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it's it's really uh at least in my

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it's it's really uh at least in my
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698
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opinion, the best way that we can show

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opinion, the best way that we can show
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the billionaires, the 1%, the oligarchs,

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the billionaires, the 1%, the oligarchs,
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702
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that there are more of us than there are

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that there are more of us than there are
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704
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of them. And um it's it's really the one

705
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of them. And um it's it's really the one
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706
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way that we can achieve power.

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way that we can achieve power.
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708
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Um I think that's

709
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Um I think that's
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712
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We we we have some bird commentary going

713
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We we we have some bird commentary going
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714
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on. Um and I was asked to remind all of

715
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on. Um and I was asked to remind all of
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716
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you there's lots of food here. Help

717
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you there's lots of food here. Help
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718
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yourself. Don't be shy. Uh don't leave

719
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yourself. Don't be shy. Uh don't leave
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720
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here hungry. Let's just say that. Um

721
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here hungry. Let's just say that. Um
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722
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well, thank you, Stephen. Um and now

723
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well, thank you, Stephen. Um and now
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724
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we're going to hear from uh Keith Suda

725
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we're going to hear from uh Keith Suda
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726
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from the DFTBA workers union. Speaking

727
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from the DFTBA workers union. Speaking

728
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729
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of this, yes.

730
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of this, yes.
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731
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Uh, what are the levels? What are the

732
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Uh, what are the levels? What are the
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733
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levels for my stage trained projection?

734
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levels for my stage trained projection?
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735
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All right.

736
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All right.
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737
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Um, yes, as he said, my name is Keith

738
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Um, yes, as he said, my name is Keith
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739
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Suda. I serve at the pleasure right now

740
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Suda. I serve at the pleasure right now
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741
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as the treasurer of the EFTBA workers

742
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as the treasurer of the EFTBA workers
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743
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union. We're an independently organized,

744
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union. We're an independently organized,
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745
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democratically run union. Uh, I'm bit of

746
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democratically run union. Uh, I'm bit of
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747
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an outlier here that we are not

748
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an outlier here that we are not
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749
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affiliated with a larger national uh,

750
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affiliated with a larger national uh,
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751
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labor union. Uh we formed that way for

752
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labor union. Uh we formed that way for
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753
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many reasons mostly because uh working

754
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many reasons mostly because uh working
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755
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as we do in a fulfillment warehouse uh

756
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as we do in a fulfillment warehouse uh
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757
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that's locally owned uh and generally uh

758
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that's locally owned uh and generally uh
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759
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historically been responsive to workers

760
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historically been responsive to workers
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761
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concerns. Uh we felt that we could uh be

762
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concerns. Uh we felt that we could uh be
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763
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most effective uh operating as our own

764
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most effective uh operating as our own
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765
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entity and also that we um also that

766
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entity and also that we um also that
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767
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allowed us to group in more people of

768
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allowed us to group in more people of
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769
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disperate uh professions who work in the

770
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disperate uh professions who work in the
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771
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warehouse. So that um from clerical to

772
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warehouse. So that um from clerical to
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773
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design to uh warehouse packers like

774
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design to uh warehouse packers like
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775
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myself uh who pack and ship orders all

776
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myself uh who pack and ship orders all
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777
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could be rolled into uh one

778
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could be rolled into uh one
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779
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organization. Um anything else that

780
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organization. Um anything else that
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781
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people really want to know about? Cool.

782
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people really want to know about? Cool.
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783
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That's it. When did we form? Oh, when

784
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That's it. When did we form? Oh, when
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785
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did we form? Uh, April of last year. We

786
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did we form? Uh, April of last year. We
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787
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were voluntarily recognized. We are

788
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were voluntarily recognized. We are
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789
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currently in the midst of negotiating

790
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currently in the midst of negotiating
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791
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our CBA. Uh, that has been dragging on

792
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our CBA. Uh, that has been dragging on
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793
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now for since October of last year with

794
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now for since October of last year with
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795
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an end insight question mark. Uh, and

796
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an end insight question mark. Uh, and
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797
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I'll I'll speak more to that from one of

798
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I'll I'll speak more to that from one of
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799
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the points I think that's coming up

800
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the points I think that's coming up
later.

801
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later.

802
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later.
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804
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805
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Next, we're going to hear from uh Katie

806
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Next, we're going to hear from uh Katie
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807
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Deg Grand and um Melissa Boyce from uh

808
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Deg Grand and um Melissa Boyce from uh
Missoula<00:18:20.080> Education

809
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Missoula Education

810
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Missoula Education
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811
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Association. Hi everyone. Uh nice to see

812
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Association. Hi everyone. Uh nice to see
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813
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you all. My name is Katie Deg Grand Pre.

814
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you all. My name is Katie Deg Grand Pre.
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815
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I'm a Spanish teacher here in town. Um

816
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I'm a Spanish teacher here in town. Um
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817
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I'm a union member.

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I'm a union member.
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Um, my be becoming a union member was

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Um, my be becoming a union member was
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was pretty interesting because at the

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was pretty interesting because at the
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time there there wasn't much uh choice

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time there there wasn't much uh choice
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when you were hired. Um, your union

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when you were hired. Um, your union
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president walked in on the first day of

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president walked in on the first day of
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school and said, "Welcome to the union."

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school and said, "Welcome to the union."
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And you signed some papers. Um, it was

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And you signed some papers. Um, it was
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very lovely. But yeah, uh, that was my

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very lovely. But yeah, uh, that was my
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sort of introduction to union work 10

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sort of introduction to union work 10
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years ago. Um, we're part of a Missoula

838
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years ago. Um, we're part of a Missoula
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Education Association. Um, and yeah,

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Education Association. Um, and yeah,
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we're affiliated with with lots of uh

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we're affiliated with with lots of uh
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different things. We're affiliated with

844
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different things. We're affiliated with
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845
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our um Montana Federation of Public

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our um Montana Federation of Public
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847
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Employees, as Mark mentioned, which is

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Employees, as Mark mentioned, which is
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849
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our public employees union in the state

850
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our public employees union in the state
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851
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of Montana. So, um, the highway patrol

852
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of Montana. So, um, the highway patrol
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853
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is part of our union. Public nurses are

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is part of our union. Public nurses are
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part of our union. Um, and so, yeah,

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part of our union. Um, and so, yeah,
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859
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union. Uh, so, hi, I'm Melissa Boyce. I

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union. Uh, so, hi, I'm Melissa Boyce. I
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teach social studies at a Big Sky High

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teach social studies at a Big Sky High
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863
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School and I'm an MEA member. Um, this

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School and I'm an MEA member. Um, this
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865
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is my third career and my first one was

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is my third career and my first one was
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867
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actually as a labor attorney um

868
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actually as a labor attorney um
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869
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representing rail labor unions which are

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representing rail labor unions which are
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not under the NLR but are under the

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not under the NLR but are under the
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Railway Labor Act. Um, and it's just

874
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Railway Labor Act. Um, and it's just
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875
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very interesting for me to see the

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very interesting for me to see the
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877
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difference between the rail unions, uh,

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difference between the rail unions, uh,
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879
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Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way

880
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Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way
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881
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workers, um, and all all of the related

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workers, um, and all all of the related
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883
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rail workers combined to support each

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rail workers combined to support each
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885
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other um, on every issue. and then

886
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other um, on every issue. and then
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coming to being a member of a teachers

888
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coming to being a member of a teachers
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union and a public union um public

890
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union and a public union um public
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891
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employees where we're representing lots

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employees where we're representing lots
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893
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of really diverse people and I think one

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of really diverse people and I think one
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895
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of the things that we're probably going

896
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of the things that we're probably going
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897
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to talk about just like having an

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to talk about just like having an
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899
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unaffiliated union where you're building

900
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unaffiliated union where you're building
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901
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consensus I mean that's that's what a

902
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consensus I mean that's that's what a
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903
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union is you're building consensus

904
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union is you're building consensus
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905
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around ideas and sometimes you can have

906
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around ideas and sometimes you can have
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907
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consensus without a form formal union

908
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consensus without a form formal union
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909
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and sometimes you can have a formal

910
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and sometimes you can have a formal
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911
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union without consensus. Um and and so I

912
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union without consensus. Um and and so I
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913
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think that's really an important thing

914
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think that's really an important thing
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915
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when we're thinking about general

916
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when we're thinking about general
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918
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consensus?<00:20:57.039> And<00:20:57.520> thank<00:20:57.679> you.

919
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920
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921
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And next we're we'll hear from Sam

922
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And next we're we'll hear from Sam
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923
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Forest Egg from Local 60 of the National

924
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Forest Egg from Local 60 of the National
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925
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Federation of Federal Employees. Sam,

926
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Federation of Federal Employees. Sam,
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927
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thank you. Hi everybody. I'm Sam. Uh I'm

928
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thank you. Hi everybody. I'm Sam. Uh I'm
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929
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with NIFYI, the National Federation of

930
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with NIFYI, the National Federation of
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931
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Federal Employees, Forest Service

932
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Federal Employees, Forest Service
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933
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Council. Uh we are part of AM IAW,

934
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Council. Uh we are part of AM IAW,
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935
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International Association of Machinists.

936
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International Association of Machinists.
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937
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uh that is due to a long history of

938
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uh that is due to a long history of
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939
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labor raids and rivalries that's

940
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labor raids and rivalries that's
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941
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probably not worth getting into here.

942
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probably not worth getting into here.
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943
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But here at NIF FSC, we represent most

944
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But here at NIF FSC, we represent most
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945
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of the 30,000 some Forest Service

946
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of the 30,000 some Forest Service
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947
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employees across the country. Uh broadly

948
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employees across the country. Uh broadly
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949
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speaking, folks in the Forest Service

950
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speaking, folks in the Forest Service
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951
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who are bargaining unit eligible are uh

952
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who are bargaining unit eligible are uh
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953
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below a certain pay pay grade, below GS9

954
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below a certain pay pay grade, below GS9
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955
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on the general scale. And it you must is

956
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on the general scale. And it you must is
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957
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those folks and folks who are on

958
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those folks and folks who are on
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959
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organized unionized forests here in

960
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organized unionized forests here in
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961
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Montana. All but one forest are

962
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Montana. All but one forest are
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963
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currently organized and that last forest

964
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currently organized and that last forest
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965
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that isn't is currently hold holding

966
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that isn't is currently hold holding
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967
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their vote to become unionized over on

968
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their vote to become unionized over on
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969
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the Kuster Galton that is ongoing and

970
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the Kuster Galton that is ongoing and
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971
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has about two weeks left and I'm very

972
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has about two weeks left and I'm very
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973
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hopeful that it's going to be

974
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hopeful that it's going to be
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975
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successful. Um, our local 60 covers the

976
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successful. Um, our local 60 covers the
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977
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Lolo National Forest, Bitterroot

978
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Lolo National Forest, Bitterroot
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979
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National Forest, the regional office,

980
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National Forest, the regional office,
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981
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Montana Technology and Develop

982
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Montana Technology and Develop
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983
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Development Center. Um, and we have just

984
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Development Center. Um, and we have just
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985
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over 700 folks in our local right now.

986
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over 700 folks in our local right now.
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987
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Uh, I don't have to tell you federal

988
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Uh, I don't have to tell you federal
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989
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employees broadly are are truly under

990
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employees broadly are are truly under
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991
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attack right now. I actually ran late

992
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attack right now. I actually ran late
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993
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coming here because I was on a call

994
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coming here because I was on a call
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995
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about uh the latest provision that the

996
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about uh the latest provision that the
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997
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House Oversight Committee just passed

998
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House Oversight Committee just passed
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999
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that would really gut federal employees,

1000
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that would really gut federal employees,
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1001
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retirements, firefighters, and everybody

1002
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retirements, firefighters, and everybody
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1003
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else. um and have frankly some really

1004
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else. um and have frankly some really
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1005
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insulting provisions in it like

1006
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insulting provisions in it like
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1007
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requiring a $350 fee if you want to be

1008
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requiring a $350 fee if you want to be
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1009
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eligible for basic employment

1010
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eligible for basic employment
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1011
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protections under the marriage systems

1012
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protections under the marriage systems
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1013
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protection board. Um things that would

1014
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protection board. Um things that would
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1015
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really have long lasting consequences

1016
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really have long lasting consequences
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1017
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and that hopefully we can apply

1018
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and that hopefully we can apply
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1019
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political pressure to prevent uh I think

1020
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political pressure to prevent uh I think
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1021
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maybe a relevant piece to add here is we

1022
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maybe a relevant piece to add here is we
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1023
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are a federal labor union so we can't

1024
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are a federal labor union so we can't
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1025
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bargain for pay and benefits in the way

1026
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bargain for pay and benefits in the way
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1027
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a lot of private sector unions largely

1028
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a lot of private sector unions largely
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1029
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do as a large function of what they do.

1030
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do as a large function of what they do.
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1031
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The way that we are able to bargain is

1032
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The way that we are able to bargain is
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1033
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through public pressure and through

1034
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through public pressure and through
lobbying<00:23:11.360> our<00:23:11.679> representatives<00:23:12.240> and

1035
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lobbying our representatives and

1036
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lobbying our representatives and
senators.<00:23:12.880> So<00:23:13.120> right<00:23:13.360> now<00:23:13.840> we<00:23:14.159> have<00:23:14.240> a<00:23:14.480> group

1037
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senators. So right now we have a group

1038
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senators. So right now we have a group
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1039
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of 20some folks in DC including someone

1040
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of 20some folks in DC including someone
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1041
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from the uh forest service unit where I

1042
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from the uh forest service unit where I
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1043
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work uh going to meetings with rep with

1044
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work uh going to meetings with rep with
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1045
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Republican and Democratic senators and

1046
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Republican and Democratic senators and
congressmen<00:23:26.320> congresswoman<00:23:27.120> and<00:23:27.600> um<00:23:28.320> yeah

1047
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congressmen congresswoman and um yeah

1048
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congressmen congresswoman and um yeah
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1049
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pushing back against the pretty sweeping

1050
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pushing back against the pretty sweeping
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1051
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cuts that we're dealing with right now.

1052
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cuts that we're dealing with right now.
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1053
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And uh you know, public pressure, as I

1054
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And uh you know, public pressure, as I
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1055
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keep telling my co-workers, uh that only

1056
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keep telling my co-workers, uh that only
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1057
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works when you when you get out and when

1058
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works when you when you get out and when
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1059
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you're loud. And there's a lot of fear

1060
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you're loud. And there's a lot of fear
in<00:23:41.520> the<00:23:41.679> federal<00:23:42.000> workforce<00:23:42.480> right<00:23:42.640> now<00:23:43.039> about

1061
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in the federal workforce right now about

1062
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in the federal workforce right now about
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1063
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speaking publicly because you typically

1064
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speaking publicly because you typically
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1065
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do get quite a bit of backlash. And uh I

1066
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do get quite a bit of backlash. And uh I
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1067
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just keep trying to remind folks, you

1068
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just keep trying to remind folks, you
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1069
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know, your employer can't control what

1070
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know, your employer can't control what
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1071
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you do off the clock. Sometimes they

1072
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you do off the clock. Sometimes they
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1073
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can't control what you do on the clock

1074
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can't control what you do on the clock
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1075
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in certain respects. And if we aren't

1076
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in certain respects. And if we aren't
willing<00:23:57.039> to<00:23:57.200> speak<00:23:57.440> publicly<00:23:58.000> about<00:23:58.240> the

1077
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willing to speak publicly about the

1078
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willing to speak publicly about the
terrible<00:23:58.880> things<00:23:59.120> going<00:23:59.280> on,<00:23:59.600> we<00:23:59.760> can't

1079
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terrible things going on, we can't

1080
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terrible things going on, we can't
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1081
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expect the public to be angry and to

1082
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expect the public to be angry and to
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1083
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back us up when the time comes. Um, so I

1084
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back us up when the time comes. Um, so I
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1085
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guess what we're all doing is a part of

1086
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guess what we're all doing is a part of
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1087
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that and I appreciate the time. Thanks.

1088
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that and I appreciate the time. Thanks.
[Applause]

1089
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1090
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So,<00:24:15.679> um,<00:24:15.760> we<00:24:16.080> have<00:24:16.240> just<00:24:16.480> one<00:24:16.880> private<00:24:17.279> sector

1091
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So, um, we have just one private sector

1092
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So, um, we have just one private sector
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1093
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union represented here. And so I'll get

1094
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union represented here. And so I'll get
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1095
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to you in a second, Keith, but you

1096
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to you in a second, Keith, but you
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1097
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talked about negotiating uh how it's

1098
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talked about negotiating uh how it's
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1099
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different than the private sector. Could

1100
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different than the private sector. Could
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1101
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you the two one of the two of you talk

1102
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you the two one of the two of you talk
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1103
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about negotiating uh also private

1104
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about negotiating uh also private
sector,<00:24:33.520> but<00:24:34.159> but<00:24:34.480> it's<00:24:34.880> dealing<00:24:35.200> with<00:24:35.279> the

1105
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sector, but but it's dealing with the

1106
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sector, but but it's dealing with the
Montana<00:24:35.919> legislature,<00:24:36.720> not<00:24:37.039> Congress?

1107
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Montana legislature, not Congress?

1108
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Montana legislature, not Congress?
Um,<00:24:40.320> sure.<00:24:40.720> I<00:24:41.120> I'm<00:24:41.520> actually<00:24:42.080> on<00:24:42.799> our

1109
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Um, sure. I I'm actually on our

1110
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Um, sure. I I'm actually on our
negotiations<00:24:44.320> committee<00:24:44.720> and<00:24:45.039> we<00:24:45.279> have

1111
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negotiations committee and we have

1112
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negotiations committee and we have
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1113
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started negotiating our CBA. Um, and

1114
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started negotiating our CBA. Um, and
it's<00:24:50.640> difficult<00:24:51.400> because<00:24:52.400> we<00:24:52.799> can<00:24:53.240> negotiate

1115
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it's difficult because we can negotiate

1116
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it's difficult because we can negotiate
raises,<00:24:54.799> we<00:24:55.039> can<00:24:55.279> negotiate<00:24:56.640> uh<00:24:56.960> conditions,

1117
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raises, we can negotiate uh conditions,

1118
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raises, we can negotiate uh conditions,
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1119
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but our funding, the the pile of money

1120
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but our funding, the the pile of money
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1121
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on the table is determined by the state

1122
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on the table is determined by the state
legislature.<00:25:04.720> There's<00:25:04.960> a<00:25:05.120> funding<00:25:05.440> formula

1123
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legislature. There's a funding formula

1124
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legislature. There's a funding formula
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1125
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and that pile is the size that it is. Um

1126
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and that pile is the size that it is. Um
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1127
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and so we are fighting over that pile

1128
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and so we are fighting over that pile
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1129
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and what we really need to do

1130
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and what we really need to do
is<00:25:17.440> make<00:25:17.679> that<00:25:17.919> pile<00:25:18.440> bigger.<00:25:19.440> Um<00:25:19.919> and<00:25:20.320> also

1131
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is make that pile bigger. Um and also

1132
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is make that pile bigger. Um and also
figure<00:25:21.120> out<00:25:21.440> how<00:25:21.840> to<00:25:22.159> distribute<00:25:22.640> that<00:25:22.880> pile

1133
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figure out how to distribute that pile

1134
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figure out how to distribute that pile
equitably.<00:25:24.880> Um<00:25:25.600> right<00:25:25.919> now<00:25:26.480> one<00:25:26.720> of<00:25:26.799> our

1135
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equitably. Um right now one of our

1136
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equitably. Um right now one of our
problems<00:25:28.240> as<00:25:28.480> you<00:25:28.720> talked<00:25:28.960> about<00:25:29.279> the<00:25:30.159> those

1137
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problems as you talked about the those

1138
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problems as you talked about the those
federal<00:25:30.960> dollars<00:25:31.360> that<00:25:31.600> we<00:25:31.760> were<00:25:32.000> using<00:25:32.240> to

1139
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federal dollars that we were using to

1140
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federal dollars that we were using to
cushion<00:25:32.960> the<00:25:33.159> pile<00:25:34.159> are<00:25:34.400> gone.

1141
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cushion the pile are gone.

1142
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cushion the pile are gone.
um<00:25:37.200> some<00:25:37.520> of<00:25:37.760> the<00:25:38.080> programs<00:25:38.559> that<00:25:38.880> we<00:25:39.120> rely<00:25:39.360> on,

1143
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um some of the programs that we rely on,

1144
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um some of the programs that we rely on,
some<00:25:39.919> of<00:25:40.000> the<00:25:40.159> grants,<00:25:40.799> some<00:25:40.960> of<00:25:41.039> the<00:25:41.200> things

1145
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some of the grants, some of the things

1146
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some of the grants, some of the things
that<00:25:41.600> we<00:25:41.840> do<00:25:42.000> to<00:25:42.320> try<00:25:42.480> to<00:25:42.640> supplement<00:25:43.440> this

1147
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that we do to try to supplement this

1148
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that we do to try to supplement this
limited<00:25:44.640> pile<00:25:44.960> of<00:25:45.200> money<00:25:45.600> from<00:25:46.000> the<00:25:46.760> state

1149
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limited pile of money from the state

1150
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limited pile of money from the state
funding<00:25:48.360> formula.<00:25:49.360> Those<00:25:49.600> are<00:25:49.760> gone.<00:25:50.640> Um<00:25:51.360> we

1151
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funding formula. Those are gone. Um we

1152
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funding formula. Those are gone. Um we
do<00:25:51.760> have<00:25:51.840> the<00:25:52.080> STARS<00:25:52.480> Act,<00:25:52.799> which<00:25:53.039> has<00:25:53.279> put

1153
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do have the STARS Act, which has put

1154
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do have the STARS Act, which has put
some<00:25:53.760> money<00:25:54.000> on<00:25:54.240> the<00:25:54.400> table,<00:25:55.200> but<00:25:55.600> just<00:25:56.000> like

1155
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some money on the table, but just like

1156
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some money on the table, but just like
the<00:25:57.000> NLR<00:25:58.000> and<00:25:58.159> and<00:25:58.640> some<00:25:58.880> other<00:25:59.559> laws,<00:26:00.559> it's<00:26:00.799> a

1157
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the NLR and and some other laws, it's a

1158
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the NLR and and some other laws, it's a
band-aid.<00:26:02.320> And<00:26:02.559> it's<00:26:02.799> a<00:26:03.039> band-aid<00:26:03.919> that<00:26:04.320> is<00:26:04.640> in

1159
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band-aid. And it's a band-aid that is in

1160
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,549
band-aid. And it's a band-aid that is in
some<00:26:05.200> ways<00:26:05.880> designed<00:26:06.880> to<00:26:07.360> disrupt<00:26:08.120> union

1161
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some ways designed to disrupt union

1162
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some ways designed to disrupt union
unity.<00:26:10.559> So<00:26:11.039> it<00:26:11.360> is<00:26:11.679> a<00:26:11.919> pile<00:26:12.159> of<00:26:12.320> money<00:26:12.559> that<00:26:12.880> is

1163
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unity. So it is a pile of money that is

1164
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unity. So it is a pile of money that is
dedicated<00:26:13.679> for<00:26:14.000> starting<00:26:14.400> teachers<00:26:14.960> who

1165
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dedicated for starting teachers who

1166
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dedicated for starting teachers who
absolutely<00:26:16.320> do<00:26:16.640> need<00:26:17.279> to<00:26:17.440> be<00:26:17.600> paid<00:26:18.200> better,

1167
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absolutely do need to be paid better,

1168
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absolutely do need to be paid better,
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1169
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:23,600
but it creates um disunityity. How how

1170
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but it creates um disunityity. How how
are<00:26:23.760> we<00:26:23.919> going<00:26:24.080> to<00:26:24.240> negotiate<00:26:24.880> raises?<00:26:25.840> What

1171
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:26,080
are we going to negotiate raises? What

1172
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,269
are we going to negotiate raises? What
will<00:26:26.320> seniority<00:26:27.120> mean?<00:26:28.000> So,<00:26:28.320> it's<00:26:28.880> um

1173
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will seniority mean? So, it's um

1174
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,029
will seniority mean? So, it's um
sometimes<00:26:29.679> I<00:26:29.919> think<00:26:30.000> as<00:26:30.240> unions<00:26:30.640> we<00:26:30.799> have<00:26:30.960> to

1175
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sometimes I think as unions we have to

1176
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:32,190
sometimes I think as unions we have to
be

1177
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be

1178
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be
careful<00:26:33.200> when<00:26:33.520> we're<00:26:33.840> given<00:26:34.240> something,<00:26:35.200> you

1179
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careful when we're given something, you

1180
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careful when we're given something, you
know,<00:26:35.600> what<00:26:35.840> is<00:26:36.000> the<00:26:36.240> purpose?<00:26:36.720> Is<00:26:36.880> it<00:26:37.039> going

1181
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know, what is the purpose? Is it going

1182
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know, what is the purpose? Is it going
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1183
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:39,600
to help our union or is it something is

1184
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,789
to help our union or is it something is
it<00:26:39.840> going<00:26:39.919> to<00:26:40.080> try<00:26:40.240> to<00:26:40.400> drive<00:26:40.559> a<00:26:40.799> wedge?<00:26:41.679> Um<00:26:42.559> but

1185
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:42,799
it going to try to drive a wedge? Um but

1186
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,430
it going to try to drive a wedge? Um but
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1187
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yeah, we can negotiate. But the other

1188
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yeah, we can negotiate. But the other
thing<00:26:45.600> that<00:26:45.840> I<00:26:46.159> think<00:26:46.480> where<00:26:46.880> I<00:26:47.440> would<00:26:47.760> think

1189
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:47,919
thing that I think where I would think

1190
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thing that I think where I would think
we've<00:26:48.240> got<00:26:48.320> to<00:26:48.480> work<00:26:48.640> on<00:26:49.240> consensus<00:26:50.240> is<00:26:50.679> that

1191
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we've got to work on consensus is that

1192
00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:55,269
we've got to work on consensus is that
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1193
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:55,279
for a lot of people increasing teacher

1194
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for a lot of people increasing teacher
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1195
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pay is increasing their property taxes.

1196
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pay is increasing their property taxes.
Um<00:26:59.440> that's<00:26:59.760> the<00:26:59.919> way<00:27:00.000> they<00:27:00.240> view<00:27:00.480> it.<00:27:01.120> And

1197
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Um that's the way they view it. And

1198
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Um that's the way they view it. And
there's<00:27:01.520> a<00:27:01.760> whole<00:27:02.720> reason<00:27:03.039> why<00:27:03.200> it's<00:27:03.440> not

1199
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there's a whole reason why it's not

1200
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there's a whole reason why it's not
really<00:27:03.840> apples<00:27:04.240> to<00:27:04.480> apples.<00:27:05.200> and

1201
00:27:07,149 --> 00:27:07,159
really apples to apples. and

1202
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:11,110
really apples to apples. and
uh<00:27:08.159> less<00:27:08.480> than<00:27:08.720> 10<00:27:09.039> cents<00:27:10.000> of<00:27:10.400> every<00:27:10.799> dollar

1203
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uh less than 10 cents of every dollar

1204
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,830
uh less than 10 cents of every dollar
that<00:27:11.360> you<00:27:11.520> pay<00:27:11.760> in<00:27:12.000> property<00:27:12.400> taxes<00:27:13.279> goes<00:27:13.679> to

1205
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:13,840
that you pay in property taxes goes to

1206
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,830
that you pay in property taxes goes to
Missoula<00:27:14.400> County<00:27:14.720> Public<00:27:15.400> Schools.<00:27:16.840> So

1207
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Missoula County Public Schools. So

1208
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Missoula County Public Schools. So
that's<00:27:18.080> a<00:27:18.320> whole<00:27:18.480> another<00:27:18.880> question,<00:27:19.600> but<00:27:19.840> it

1209
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that's a whole another question, but it

1210
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that's a whole another question, but it
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1211
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is hard because sometimes with public

1212
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is hard because sometimes with public
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unions, it's almost like you're

1214
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unions, it's almost like you're
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1215
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negotiating against the taxpayers in

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negotiating against the taxpayers in
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your district. And I I think that's a a

1218
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your district. And I I think that's a a
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1219
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difficult thing for us.

1220
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difficult thing for us.
Yeah.

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if<00:27:35.919> you<00:27:36.240> we<00:27:36.480> could<00:27:36.640> talk<00:27:36.960> like<00:27:37.200> lots<00:27:37.520> more

1223
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if you we could talk like lots more

1224
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if you we could talk like lots more
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1225
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about like school funding um and things

1226
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about like school funding um and things
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1227
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like that, but I know there's lots more

1228
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like that, but I know there's lots more
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1229
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questions on the table. So, if that's

1230
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questions on the table. So, if that's
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1231
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something you want to know about at the

1232
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something you want to know about at the
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1233
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end, there's time for questions. You you

1234
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end, there's time for questions. You you
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1235
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raise your hand and we'll answer that.

1236
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raise your hand and we'll answer that.
Well,<00:27:49.039> so<00:27:49.440> this<00:27:49.760> is<00:27:50.240> to<00:27:50.480> me<00:27:50.720> it's<00:27:50.960> it's

1237
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Well, so this is to me it's it's

1238
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Well, so this is to me it's it's
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1239
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interesting about the source of the pile

1240
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interesting about the source of the pile
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1241
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of money, right? Because when you're

1242
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of money, right? Because when you're
collectively<00:27:57.679> bargaining,<00:27:58.559> usually<00:27:59.039> I<00:27:59.200> mean

1243
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collectively bargaining, usually I mean

1244
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collectively bargaining, usually I mean
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1245
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even in the private sector employer has

1246
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even in the private sector employer has
some<00:28:02.240> idea<00:28:02.640> how<00:28:02.880> much<00:28:03.120> money<00:28:03.360> they<00:28:04.159> can<00:28:04.720> work

1247
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some idea how much money they can work

1248
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some idea how much money they can work
with<00:28:05.200> in<00:28:05.440> terms<00:28:05.679> of<00:28:05.919> increasing<00:28:06.720> pay<00:28:07.039> or

1249
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with in terms of increasing pay or

1250
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with in terms of increasing pay or
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1251
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increasing benefits. Um and when your

1252
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increasing benefits. Um and when your
employer<00:28:11.440> is<00:28:12.320> a<00:28:12.559> public<00:28:12.880> institution<00:28:13.760> on<00:28:13.919> on

1253
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employer is a public institution on on

1254
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employer is a public institution on on
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1255
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the state level, you're you are limited

1256
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the state level, you're you are limited
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1257
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by uh politics on the in the

1258
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by uh politics on the in the
legislature,<00:28:21.120> but<00:28:21.360> also<00:28:21.840> on<00:28:22.080> the<00:28:22.320> federal

1259
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legislature, but also on the federal

1260
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legislature, but also on the federal
level.<00:28:22.880> I<00:28:23.120> don't<00:28:23.200> know<00:28:23.600> if<00:28:23.919> you've<00:28:24.559> gone

1261
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level. I don't know if you've gone

1262
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level. I don't know if you've gone
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1263
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through collective bargaining at all,

1264
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through collective bargaining at all,
but<00:28:27.039> uh<00:28:27.200> it<00:28:27.360> it's<00:28:28.080> somewhat<00:28:28.640> similar,<00:28:29.200> right?

1265
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but uh it it's somewhat similar, right?

1266
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but uh it it's somewhat similar, right?
Um<00:28:30.000> that<00:28:31.039> uh<00:28:31.279> you're<00:28:31.600> dealing<00:28:32.399> it<00:28:32.880> basically

1267
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Um that uh you're dealing it basically

1268
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Um that uh you're dealing it basically
you're<00:28:33.840> uh<00:28:34.000> you're<00:28:34.240> negotiating<00:28:34.799> with<00:28:35.039> an

1269
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you're uh you're negotiating with an

1270
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you're uh you're negotiating with an
agency<00:28:35.760> with<00:28:35.919> the<00:28:36.080> Forest<00:28:36.480> Service,<00:28:36.880> right?

1271
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agency with the Forest Service, right?

1272
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agency with the Forest Service, right?
In<00:28:37.279> your<00:28:37.440> case,<00:28:38.399> um<00:28:38.640> and<00:28:38.880> they're<00:28:39.200> funded<00:28:39.520> by

1273
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In your case, um and they're funded by

1274
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In your case, um and they're funded by
Congress,<00:28:41.440> you<00:28:41.600> know,<00:28:41.840> and<00:28:42.240> not<00:28:42.480> by<00:28:42.720> tax

1275
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Congress, you know, and not by tax

1276
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Congress, you know, and not by tax
dollars.<00:28:43.840> Don't<00:28:44.080> get<00:28:44.240> me<00:28:44.399> started.<00:28:44.880> But<00:28:45.520> um

1277
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dollars. Don't get me started. But um

1278
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dollars. Don't get me started. But um
but<00:28:46.799> uh<00:28:47.360> unlike<00:28:47.919> unlike<00:28:48.320> the<00:28:48.799> uh<00:28:49.120> uh<00:28:49.360> unlike

1279
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but uh unlike unlike the uh uh unlike

1280
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but uh unlike unlike the uh uh unlike
teachers<00:28:50.320> for<00:28:50.480> instance,<00:28:50.880> that<00:28:51.120> is<00:28:51.360> tax<00:28:51.679> money

1281
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teachers for instance, that is tax money

1282
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teachers for instance, that is tax money
that<00:28:52.640> gets<00:28:52.960> paid<00:28:53.200> and<00:28:53.440> and<00:28:53.840> I<00:28:54.000> can<00:28:54.159> see<00:28:54.320> the

1283
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that gets paid and and I can see the

1284
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that gets paid and and I can see the
conflict<00:28:54.960> there.<00:28:55.360> But<00:28:56.080> have<00:28:56.320> have<00:28:56.559> you<00:28:57.120> uh

1285
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conflict there. But have have you uh

1286
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conflict there. But have have you uh
talk<00:28:58.320> about<00:28:58.880> that<00:28:59.279> that<00:28:59.679> sort<00:28:59.840> of<00:29:00.120> conflict<00:29:01.120> in

1287
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talk about that that sort of conflict in

1288
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talk about that that sort of conflict in
collective<00:29:01.919> bargaining<00:29:02.480> for<00:29:02.799> a<00:29:03.039> federal

1289
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collective bargaining for a federal

1290
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collective bargaining for a federal
employee<00:29:03.760> for<00:29:04.480> for<00:29:04.640> a<00:29:04.880> federal<00:29:05.120> employee?

1291
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employee for for a federal employee?

1292
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employee for for a federal employee?
Yeah,<00:29:06.240> I<00:29:06.399> mean<00:29:06.640> absolutely.<00:29:07.360> So<00:29:07.840> we<00:29:08.240> our<00:29:08.960> uh

1293
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Yeah, I mean absolutely. So we our uh

1294
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Yeah, I mean absolutely. So we our uh
master<00:29:09.600> agreement<00:29:10.399> just<00:29:10.640> was<00:29:10.960> finalized<00:29:11.360> in

1295
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master agreement just was finalized in

1296
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master agreement just was finalized in
the<00:29:11.760> past<00:29:11.919> year<00:29:12.640> for<00:29:12.799> the<00:29:12.960> forest<00:29:13.279> service.<00:29:13.679> We

1297
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the past year for the forest service. We

1298
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the past year for the forest service. We
actually<00:29:14.080> have<00:29:14.240> an<00:29:14.480> incredibly<00:29:15.039> strong

1299
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actually have an incredibly strong

1300
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actually have an incredibly strong
master<00:29:15.840> agreement<00:29:16.240> relative<00:29:16.559> to<00:29:16.720> a<00:29:16.880> lot<00:29:16.960> of

1301
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master agreement relative to a lot of

1302
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master agreement relative to a lot of
other<00:29:17.279> public<00:29:17.600> sector<00:29:17.840> unions.<00:29:18.320> And<00:29:18.799> that<00:29:19.120> is

1303
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other public sector unions. And that is

1304
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other public sector unions. And that is
valid<00:29:19.679> through<00:29:20.440> 2029<00:29:21.440> incidentally<00:29:22.159> just

1305
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valid through 2029 incidentally just

1306
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valid through 2029 incidentally just
passed<00:29:22.640> when<00:29:22.799> the<00:29:22.960> current<00:29:23.200> administration

1307
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passed when the current administration

1308
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passed when the current administration
ought<00:29:24.240> to<00:29:24.399> expire.<00:29:24.799> And<00:29:25.039> what<00:29:25.279> we<00:29:25.520> keep

1309
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ought to expire. And what we keep

1310
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ought to expire. And what we keep
reminding<00:29:26.080> folks<00:29:26.559> is<00:29:26.799> the<00:29:26.960> only<00:29:27.120> way<00:29:27.360> the<00:29:27.600> only

1311
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reminding folks is the only way the only

1312
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reminding folks is the only way the only
thing<00:29:27.840> that<00:29:28.000> can<00:29:28.159> override<00:29:29.120> that<00:29:29.440> that<00:29:29.760> master

1313
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thing that can override that that master

1314
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thing that can override that that master
agreement<00:29:30.480> is<00:29:30.720> an<00:29:30.880> act<00:29:31.039> of<00:29:31.200> Congress.<00:29:32.320> um<00:29:33.039> that

1315
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agreement is an act of Congress. um that

1316
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agreement is an act of Congress. um that
has<00:29:33.679> actually<00:29:34.000> been<00:29:34.720> pretty<00:29:35.039> effective<00:29:35.360> when

1317
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has actually been pretty effective when

1318
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has actually been pretty effective when
the<00:29:35.679> rubbers<00:29:36.000> met<00:29:36.159> the<00:29:36.240> road<00:29:36.480> over<00:29:36.640> the<00:29:36.799> past

1319
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the rubbers met the road over the past

1320
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the rubbers met the road over the past
few<00:29:37.120> months.<00:29:37.440> You<00:29:37.679> probably<00:29:37.840> heard<00:29:38.080> about

1321
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few months. You probably heard about

1322
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few months. You probably heard about
probationary<00:29:39.279> employees<00:29:39.760> that<00:29:40.000> were

1323
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probationary employees that were

1324
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probationary employees that were
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1325
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illegally fired in mass in the first

1326
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illegally fired in mass in the first
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1327
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couple months of this administration. Uh

1328
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couple months of this administration. Uh
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1329
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a large part of the basis of those

1330
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a large part of the basis of those
folks,<00:29:48.320> there<00:29:48.480> were<00:29:48.720> three<00:29:49.039> separate

1331
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folks, there were three separate

1332
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folks, there were three separate
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1333
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lawsuits and grievances that were filed

1334
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lawsuits and grievances that were filed
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1335
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to try to get them their jobs back. And

1336
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to try to get them their jobs back. And
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1337
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for folks who didn't go ahead and get

1338
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for folks who didn't go ahead and get
another<00:29:55.679> job<00:29:55.919> after<00:29:56.240> four<00:29:56.399> or<00:29:56.559> five<00:29:56.720> weeks<00:29:57.200> of

1339
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another job after four or five weeks of

1340
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another job after four or five weeks of
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1341
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being sumearily and illegally fired,

1342
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being sumearily and illegally fired,
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1343
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most of them have returned to work and

1344
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most of them have returned to work and
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have been reinstated, which is a huge

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have been reinstated, which is a huge
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win. And that was largely

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win. And that was largely
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because of of the protections that we

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because of of the protections that we
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1351
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have in our master agreement about what

1352
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have in our master agreement about what
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1353
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the proper way to go about what's called

1354
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the proper way to go about what's called
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1355
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a reduction in force is. And that was

1356
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a reduction in force is. And that was
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not followed in the in the way that they

1358
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not followed in the in the way that they
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1359
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fired those probationary employees. Um,

1360
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fired those probationary employees. Um,
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1361
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a lot of what our master agreement

1362
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a lot of what our master agreement
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1363
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provides for us in terms of working

1364
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provides for us in terms of working
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1365
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conditions is timelines that ultimately

1366
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conditions is timelines that ultimately
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1367
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can slow down the process of gutting

1368
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can slow down the process of gutting
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1369
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public lands management agencies or

1370
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public lands management agencies or
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1371
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federal agencies across the board right

1372
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federal agencies across the board right
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1373
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now. And what I keep telling our members

1374
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now. And what I keep telling our members
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1375
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is frankly right now time and delays are

1376
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is frankly right now time and delays are
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1377
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one of the biggest assets that we have

1378
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one of the biggest assets that we have
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1379
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because when it comes to folks like the

1380
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because when it comes to folks like the
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1381
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hundred hundome probationary employees

1382
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hundred hundome probationary employees
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1383
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that they attempted to fire just on the

1384
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that they attempted to fire just on the
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1385
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Lolo and the bitter route um the delays

1386
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Lolo and the bitter route um the delays
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1387
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that we were ultimately able to put into

1388
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that we were ultimately able to put into
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1389
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place for them meant that they have

1390
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place for them meant that they have
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1391
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their jobs back and because those were

1392
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their jobs back and because those were
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1393
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largely I mean 75% of them were GS6s and

1394
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largely I mean 75% of them were GS6s and
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1395
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below making less than 20 bucks an hour.

1396
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below making less than 20 bucks an hour.
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1397
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Uh it actually looks like a lot of those

1398
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Uh it actually looks like a lot of those
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1399
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folks if they want to continue to be

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folks if they want to continue to be
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1401
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public servants will get to continue

1402
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public servants will get to continue
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1403
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that whatever the next round of riffs

1404
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that whatever the next round of riffs
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1405
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is, God willing. Um I'll also note maybe

1406
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is, God willing. Um I'll also note maybe
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1407
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just kind of segueing off of what you

1408
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just kind of segueing off of what you
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1409
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said, you know, the dynamics and the

1410
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said, you know, the dynamics and the
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1411
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playbook that we're seeing at the

1412
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playbook that we're seeing at the
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1413
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federal level and the state level are

1414
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federal level and the state level are
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1415
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not too different. You know, they try to

1416
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not too different. You know, they try to
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1417
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pit our funding and the work that we do

1418
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pit our funding and the work that we do
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1419
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against something like the the option of

1420
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against something like the the option of
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1421
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raising property taxes, but we just cut

1422
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raising property taxes, but we just cut
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the top marginal income tax rate in

1424
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the top marginal income tax rate in
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1425
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Montana. the biggest income tax cut in

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Montana. the biggest income tax cut in
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1427
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the state's history. That is another way

1428
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the state's history. That is another way
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1429
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that you could generate revenues for

1430
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that you could generate revenues for
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1431
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basic public goods like school, like

1432
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basic public goods like school, like
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1433
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health care, like stewards for our

1434
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health care, like stewards for our
public<00:31:38.240> lands.<00:31:38.720> And<00:31:38.880> the<00:31:39.120> exact<00:31:39.360> same<00:31:39.600> thing

1435
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public lands. And the exact same thing

1436
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public lands. And the exact same thing
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1437
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is going on in the federal budget right

1438
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is going on in the federal budget right
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1439
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now where they're proposing two trillion

1440
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now where they're proposing two trillion
in<00:31:43.200> cuts<00:31:43.440> to<00:31:43.760> health<00:31:44.080> care<00:31:44.640> and<00:31:44.880> to<00:31:45.279> public

1441
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in cuts to health care and to public

1442
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in cuts to health care and to public
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1443
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servants and to public lands. All to

1444
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servants and to public lands. All to
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1445
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fund again extending $4.8 trillion of

1446
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fund again extending $4.8 trillion of
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1447
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income tax cuts largely largely for the

1448
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income tax cuts largely largely for the
rich.<00:31:53.919> So,<00:31:54.080> it's<00:31:54.240> the<00:31:54.399> exact<00:31:54.640> same<00:31:54.880> playbook.

1449
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rich. So, it's the exact same playbook.

1450
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rich. So, it's the exact same playbook.
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1451
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It's pulling money uh pulling money from

1452
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It's pulling money uh pulling money from
public<00:31:58.720> goods<00:31:59.279> to<00:31:59.600> try<00:31:59.760> to<00:31:59.919> put<00:32:00.080> more<00:32:00.320> money

1453
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public goods to try to put more money

1454
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public goods to try to put more money
into<00:32:01.039> the<00:32:01.360> pockets<00:32:01.679> of<00:32:01.840> incredibly<00:32:02.320> wealthy

1455
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into the pockets of incredibly wealthy

1456
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into the pockets of incredibly wealthy
people.<00:32:03.519> And<00:32:03.919> uh<00:32:04.080> we're<00:32:04.240> not<00:32:04.399> what<00:32:04.640> we're

1457
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people. And uh we're not what we're

1458
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people. And uh we're not what we're
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1459
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fighting against isn't new. It's just a

1460
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fighting against isn't new. It's just a
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1461
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lot more blatant and a lot more out in

1462
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lot more blatant and a lot more out in
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1463
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the open.

1464
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the open.
Um<00:32:11.519> and<00:32:11.679> and<00:32:11.919> to<00:32:12.080> your<00:32:12.320> point<00:32:12.399> that<00:32:12.720> you

1465
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Um and and to your point that you

1466
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Um and and to your point that you
mentioned<00:32:13.600> and<00:32:13.840> I<00:32:14.000> just<00:32:14.159> want<00:32:14.320> to<00:32:14.640> say<00:32:14.880> this

1467
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mentioned and I just want to say this

1468
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mentioned and I just want to say this
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1469
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because um I testified in the last

1470
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because um I testified in the last
couple<00:32:18.320> of<00:32:18.480> legislatores<00:32:19.200> against<00:32:19.760> the<00:32:20.480> tax

1471
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couple of legislatores against the tax

1472
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couple of legislatores against the tax
cuts<00:32:21.360> for<00:32:21.600> the<00:32:21.760> wealthy<00:32:22.159> in<00:32:22.399> Montana,<00:32:22.960> income

1473
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cuts for the wealthy in Montana, income

1474
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cuts for the wealthy in Montana, income
tax<00:32:23.519> cuts.<00:32:24.640> And<00:32:24.960> this<00:32:25.200> is,<00:32:25.760> I<00:32:26.080> think,<00:32:26.320> the

1475
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tax cuts. And this is, I think, the

1476
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tax cuts. And this is, I think, the
fourth<00:32:27.000> time<00:32:28.000> that<00:32:28.399> tax<00:32:28.720> cuts<00:32:29.039> on<00:32:29.279> the<00:32:29.440> upper

1477
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fourth time that tax cuts on the upper

1478
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fourth time that tax cuts on the upper
margin<00:32:30.720> income<00:32:31.120> tax<00:32:31.360> cuts<00:32:31.760> have<00:32:32.000> happened

1479
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margin income tax cuts have happened

1480
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margin income tax cuts have happened
with<00:32:32.399> the<00:32:32.559> wealthy.<00:32:32.960> Now,<00:32:33.200> now<00:32:33.440> there's<00:32:33.679> no

1481
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with the wealthy. Now, now there's no

1482
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with the wealthy. Now, now there's no
difference.<00:32:34.240> You<00:32:34.399> pay<00:32:34.559> the,<00:32:35.120> you<00:32:35.279> know,<00:32:35.440> if

1483
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difference. You pay the, you know, if

1484
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difference. You pay the, you know, if
you're<00:32:35.840> making<00:32:36.480> uh,<00:32:37.120> you<00:32:37.279> know,<00:32:37.760> uh,<00:32:38.240> $14<00:32:38.960> an

1485
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you're making uh, you know, uh, $14 an

1486
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you're making uh, you know, uh, $14 an
hour,<00:32:39.600> you're<00:32:39.840> paying<00:32:40.080> the<00:32:40.320> same<00:32:40.480> amount<00:32:40.720> of

1487
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hour, you're paying the same amount of

1488
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hour, you're paying the same amount of
rate<00:32:41.600> of<00:32:41.840> income<00:32:42.159> tax<00:32:42.399> as<00:32:42.640> someone<00:32:42.960> making<00:32:43.279> $14

1489
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rate of income tax as someone making $14

1490
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rate of income tax as someone making $14
million<00:32:44.640> an<00:32:45.320> hour.<00:32:46.320> So,<00:32:47.279> um,<00:32:47.600> and<00:32:47.760> and<00:32:48.159> that's

1491
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million an hour. So, um, and and that's

1492
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million an hour. So, um, and and that's
that's<00:32:48.880> a<00:32:49.120> little<00:32:49.200> different<00:32:49.440> than<00:32:49.600> the<00:32:49.919> the

1493
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that's a little different than the the

1494
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that's a little different than the the
federal,<00:32:50.640> but<00:32:50.799> I<00:32:50.880> I<00:32:51.200> just<00:32:51.360> wanted<00:32:51.519> to<00:32:51.679> point

1495
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federal, but I I just wanted to point

1496
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federal, but I I just wanted to point
that<00:32:52.000> out<00:32:52.159> because<00:32:52.399> that's<00:32:52.559> a<00:32:52.799> great<00:32:53.039> point.

1497
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that out because that's a great point.

1498
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that out because that's a great point.
um<00:32:54.000> that<00:32:54.640> on<00:32:54.799> the<00:32:54.960> one<00:32:55.120> hand<00:32:55.519> tax<00:32:55.840> cuts,<00:32:56.559> on<00:32:56.799> the

1499
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um that on the one hand tax cuts, on the

1500
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um that on the one hand tax cuts, on the
other<00:32:57.120> hand,<00:32:57.440> oh<00:32:57.679> no,<00:32:57.840> we<00:32:58.080> can't<00:32:58.240> afford<00:32:58.480> that.

1501
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other hand, oh no, we can't afford that.

1502
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other hand, oh no, we can't afford that.
We<00:32:59.039> can't<00:32:59.200> afford<00:32:59.679> raises<00:33:00.080> or<00:33:00.320> we<00:33:00.480> can't

1503
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We can't afford raises or we can't

1504
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We can't afford raises or we can't
afford<00:33:00.960> paying<00:33:01.360> for<00:33:01.679> health<00:33:01.919> care<00:33:02.159> for<00:33:02.320> all,

1505
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afford paying for health care for all,

1506
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afford paying for health care for all,
etc.,<00:33:03.440> etc.<00:33:03.760> It's<00:33:03.840> a<00:33:04.000> it's<00:33:04.159> an<00:33:04.399> old<00:33:04.919> game.

1507
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etc., etc. It's a it's an old game.

1508
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etc., etc. It's a it's an old game.
Keith,

1509
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Keith,

1510
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Keith,
um<00:33:08.720> didn't<00:33:08.960> want<00:33:09.679> didn't<00:33:09.919> want<00:33:10.080> you<00:33:10.640> uh<00:33:10.799> to<00:33:11.039> be

1511
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um didn't want didn't want you uh to be

1512
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um didn't want didn't want you uh to be

1513
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1514
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forgotten. I'm fine.

1515
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forgotten. I'm fine.
Good.<00:33:14.799> Um<00:33:15.679> so<00:33:16.000> te<00:33:16.240> tell<00:33:16.480> us<00:33:16.640> something<00:33:17.039> about

1516
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Good. Um so te tell us something about

1517
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Good. Um so te tell us something about
the<00:33:17.799> process<00:33:18.799> you're<00:33:19.200> going<00:33:19.360> through<00:33:19.600> in

1518
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the process you're going through in

1519
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the process you're going through in
collective<00:33:20.320> bargaining<00:33:20.960> with<00:33:21.919> your<00:33:22.240> employer

1520
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collective bargaining with your employer

1521
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,430
collective bargaining with your employer
in<00:33:23.360> the<00:33:23.519> private<00:33:23.840> sector<00:33:24.720> just<00:33:25.039> you<00:33:25.200> know<00:33:25.279> some

1522
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:25,440
in the private sector just you know some

1523
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in the private sector just you know some
of<00:33:25.519> the<00:33:25.679> highlights<00:33:26.080> and<00:33:26.240> some<00:33:26.399> of<00:33:26.480> the

1524
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of the highlights and some of the

1525
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,430
of the highlights and some of the

1526
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1527
00:33:28,430 --> 00:33:28,440
difficulties you've been

1528
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difficulties you've been
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1529
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uh yeah real quick I just out of my own

1530
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:33,830
uh yeah real quick I just out of my own
curiosity<00:33:32.320> how<00:33:32.480> many<00:33:32.640> folks<00:33:32.960> here<00:33:33.360> like<00:33:33.600> in

1531
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curiosity how many folks here like in

1532
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,509
curiosity how many folks here like in
attendance<00:33:34.240> are<00:33:34.480> like<00:33:34.720> currently<00:33:35.120> members<00:33:35.360> of

1533
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:35,519
attendance are like currently members of

1534
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,149
attendance are like currently members of
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1535
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a union or have been I don't want to

1536
00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:39,750
a union or have been I don't want to
like<00:33:38.399> talk<00:33:38.640> about<00:33:38.799> a<00:33:38.960> lot<00:33:39.039> of<00:33:39.200> stuff<00:33:39.440> that's

1537
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:39,760
like talk about a lot of stuff that's

1538
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like talk about a lot of stuff that's
like<00:33:40.080> already<00:33:40.480> known<00:33:40.880> okay<00:33:41.200> cool<00:33:41.840> most<00:33:42.080> of<00:33:42.159> you

1539
00:33:42,669 --> 00:33:42,679
like already known okay cool most of you

1540
00:33:42,679 --> 00:33:45,669
like already known okay cool most of you
so<00:33:43.679> I<00:33:43.840> I<00:33:44.159> was<00:33:44.320> hoping<00:33:44.640> to<00:33:44.799> mostly<00:33:45.279> just<00:33:45.519> like

1541
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:45,679
so I I was hoping to mostly just like

1542
00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:48,549
so I I was hoping to mostly just like
try<00:33:45.919> to<00:33:46.080> be<00:33:46.320> a<00:33:46.799> uh<00:33:46.960> evangelical<00:33:47.840> speaker<00:33:48.240> for

1543
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:48,559
try to be a uh evangelical speaker for

1544
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,549
try to be a uh evangelical speaker for
joining<00:33:49.360> uh<00:33:49.440> starting<00:33:49.760> a<00:33:49.919> union<00:33:50.159> in<00:33:50.240> your<00:33:50.399> own

1545
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:50,559
joining uh starting a union in your own

1546
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:51,990
joining uh starting a union in your own
workplace,<00:33:51.039> but<00:33:51.279> you<00:33:51.440> all<00:33:51.600> already<00:33:51.840> know

1547
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:52,000
workplace, but you all already know

1548
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,029
workplace, but you all already know
that.<00:33:52.480> Amen.<00:33:53.440> Yeah.<00:33:54.519> Um<00:33:55.519> we<00:33:56.559> uh<00:33:57.120> so<00:33:57.760> uh<00:33:58.159> DFTBA

1549
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:59,039
that. Amen. Yeah. Um we uh so uh DFTBA

1550
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,430
that. Amen. Yeah. Um we uh so uh DFTBA
is<00:33:59.279> a<00:33:59.600> local<00:34:00.080> warehouse<00:34:00.640> affiliated<00:34:01.200> with

1551
00:34:01,430 --> 00:34:01,440
is a local warehouse affiliated with

1552
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,750
is a local warehouse affiliated with
perhaps<00:34:01.760> you've<00:34:02.000> heard<00:34:02.480> uh<00:34:02.559> the<00:34:02.880> owned<00:34:03.200> by<00:34:03.679> uh

1553
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:03,760
perhaps you've heard uh the owned by uh

1554
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,230
perhaps you've heard uh the owned by uh
the<00:34:04.000> brothers<00:34:04.399> Hank<00:34:04.799> Green<00:34:05.039> and<00:34:05.200> John<00:34:05.519> Green

1555
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:06,240
the brothers Hank Green and John Green

1556
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,470
the brothers Hank Green and John Green
of<00:34:06.559> Internet<00:34:07.039> Fame.<00:34:07.679> Uh<00:34:08.000> you<00:34:08.240> might<00:34:08.320> have

1557
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:08,480
of Internet Fame. Uh you might have

1558
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,190
of Internet Fame. Uh you might have
heard<00:34:08.639> of<00:34:08.800> them<00:34:08.960> if<00:34:09.280> you're<00:34:09.679> under<00:34:10.000> the<00:34:10.240> age<00:34:10.560> of

1559
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:11,200
heard of them if you're under the age of

1560
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,750
heard of them if you're under the age of
40.

1561
00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:12,760
40.

1562
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,389
40.
Um<00:34:13.760> we<00:34:14.079> do<00:34:14.320> merchandise<00:34:14.879> fulfillment<00:34:15.359> for<00:34:16.159> uh

1563
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Um we do merchandise fulfillment for uh

1564
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:20,869
Um we do merchandise fulfillment for uh
online<00:34:16.879> creators<00:34:17.440> and<00:34:17.839> also<00:34:18.320> some<00:34:18.960> uh<00:34:20.399> uh<00:34:20.560> have

1565
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:20,879
online creators and also some uh uh have

1566
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:24,950
online creators and also some uh uh have
a<00:34:21.679> arm<00:34:22.000> of<00:34:22.240> the<00:34:22.480> company<00:34:23.119> that<00:34:23.520> does<00:34:24.159> uh<00:34:24.399> 100%

1567
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:24,960
a arm of the company that does uh 100%

1568
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,389
a arm of the company that does uh 100%
of<00:34:25.119> profits<00:34:25.359> to<00:34:25.599> charity<00:34:26.000> based<00:34:26.240> on

1569
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:26,399
of profits to charity based on

1570
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:28,310
of profits to charity based on
merchandise<00:34:27.359> uh<00:34:27.520> designed<00:34:27.760> by<00:34:27.919> Hank<00:34:28.159> and

1571
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:28,320
merchandise uh designed by Hank and

1572
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,190
merchandise uh designed by Hank and
John.<00:34:29.280> Um<00:34:29.839> it's<00:34:30.159> complicated<00:34:30.720> actually<00:34:30.960> for

1573
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:31,200
John. Um it's complicated actually for

1574
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,909
John. Um it's complicated actually for
the<00:34:31.440> accounting<00:34:32.800> uh<00:34:32.879> and<00:34:33.119> it<00:34:33.359> makes<00:34:33.520> it<00:34:33.679> hard

1575
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:33,919
the accounting uh and it makes it hard

1576
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:38,230
the accounting uh and it makes it hard
when<00:34:34.159> you're<00:34:34.320> a<00:34:34.839> union.<00:34:35.919> Uh<00:34:36.639> but<00:34:37.200> uh<00:34:37.359> we<00:34:37.599> had<00:34:38.079> uh

1577
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:38,240
when you're a union. Uh but uh we had uh

1578
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:40,230
when you're a union. Uh but uh we had uh
sort<00:34:38.399> of<00:34:38.879> uh<00:34:39.040> multiple<00:34:39.440> shakeups<00:34:39.919> sort<00:34:40.000> of<00:34:40.079> in

1579
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:40,240
sort of uh multiple shakeups sort of in

1580
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,710
sort of uh multiple shakeups sort of in
the<00:34:40.399> power<00:34:40.639> structure<00:34:41.359> and<00:34:42.320> there<00:34:42.560> were

1581
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:42,720
the power structure and there were

1582
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:44,389
the power structure and there were
enough<00:34:43.040> folks<00:34:43.359> kind<00:34:43.599> of<00:34:43.760> talking<00:34:44.079> about

1583
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:44,399
enough folks kind of talking about

1584
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,629
enough folks kind of talking about
wanting<00:34:44.720> to<00:34:44.879> start<00:34:45.040> a<00:34:45.280> union<00:34:45.599> that<00:34:46.079> I<00:34:46.320> just

1585
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:46,639
wanting to start a union that I just

1586
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,790
wanting to start a union that I just
kind<00:34:46.800> of<00:34:47.520> after<00:34:47.919> having<00:34:48.240> four<00:34:48.560> different

1587
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:48,800
kind of after having four different

1588
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,950
kind of after having four different
conversations<00:34:49.440> of<00:34:49.839> people<00:34:50.399> talking<00:34:50.720> about

1589
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:50,960
conversations of people talking about

1590
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,790
conversations of people talking about
wanting<00:34:51.200> to<00:34:51.440> unionize<00:34:52.000> I<00:34:52.159> was<00:34:52.240> just<00:34:52.399> like<00:34:52.560> why

1591
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:52,800
wanting to unionize I was just like why

1592
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,109
wanting to unionize I was just like why
don't<00:34:53.040> you<00:34:53.200> all<00:34:53.520> talk<00:34:53.679> to<00:34:53.919> each<00:34:54.159> other?<00:34:54.800> So<00:34:54.960> I

1593
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:55,119
don't you all talk to each other? So I

1594
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,710
don't you all talk to each other? So I
like<00:34:55.280> to<00:34:55.440> think<00:34:55.520> of<00:34:55.679> myself<00:34:55.919> as<00:34:56.079> just<00:34:56.399> you<00:34:56.480> know

1595
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:56,720
like to think of myself as just you know

1596
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:58,630
like to think of myself as just you know
kind<00:34:56.879> of<00:34:57.280> shoved<00:34:57.680> everyone<00:34:58.000> a<00:34:58.160> little<00:34:58.320> closer

1597
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:58,640
kind of shoved everyone a little closer

1598
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,270
kind of shoved everyone a little closer
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1599
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together to help at the start there. Um,

1600
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together to help at the start there. Um,
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1601
00:35:05,790 --> 00:35:05,800
but as we move into negotiating our CBA,

1602
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,109
but as we move into negotiating our CBA,
we<00:35:06.800> even<00:35:07.119> a<00:35:07.440> company<00:35:07.760> as<00:35:08.160> sort<00:35:08.320> of<00:35:08.560> outwardly

1603
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:09,119
we even a company as sort of outwardly

1604
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,510
we even a company as sort of outwardly
ethically<00:35:09.599> aligned<00:35:10.400> as<00:35:10.640> one<00:35:10.880> that<00:35:11.040> gives<00:35:11.280> some

1605
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ethically aligned as one that gives some

1606
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ethically aligned as one that gives some
of<00:35:11.599> its<00:35:11.760> profits<00:35:12.160> to<00:35:12.320> charity<00:35:12.720> is<00:35:12.960> one<00:35:13.200> with<00:35:14.079> uh

1607
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of its profits to charity is one with uh

1608
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of its profits to charity is one with uh
notable<00:35:15.040> sort<00:35:15.280> of<00:35:15.440> philanthropic<00:35:16.160> mission

1609
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notable sort of philanthropic mission

1610
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,470
notable sort of philanthropic mission
that<00:35:17.040> uh<00:35:17.119> if<00:35:17.280> you<00:35:17.440> are<00:35:17.680> familiar<00:35:18.000> with<00:35:18.240> the

1611
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:18,480
that uh if you are familiar with the

1612
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that uh if you are familiar with the
Green<00:35:18.800> Brothers<00:35:19.119> and<00:35:19.520> the<00:35:19.760> things<00:35:19.920> they

1613
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Green Brothers and the things they

1614
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Green Brothers and the things they
attempt<00:35:20.400> to<00:35:20.560> do,<00:35:20.800> the<00:35:21.119> amount<00:35:21.359> of<00:35:21.520> resistance

1615
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:21,920
attempt to do, the amount of resistance

1616
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,710
attempt to do, the amount of resistance
you<00:35:22.160> can<00:35:22.320> still<00:35:22.560> encounter<00:35:22.960> is<00:35:23.280> surprising.

1617
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:24,720
you can still encounter is surprising.

1618
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,710
you can still encounter is surprising.
Uh<00:35:25.040> we<00:35:25.200> have<00:35:25.359> not<00:35:25.520> even<00:35:25.760> gotten<00:35:26.000> to<00:35:26.079> wages<00:35:26.480> yet,

1619
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Uh we have not even gotten to wages yet,

1620
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,349
Uh we have not even gotten to wages yet,
but<00:35:26.960> we're<00:35:27.119> also<00:35:27.359> a<00:35:27.599> lot<00:35:27.680> of<00:35:27.839> like<00:35:28.079> very<00:35:29.119> uh

1621
00:35:30,349 --> 00:35:30,359
but we're also a lot of like very uh

1622
00:35:30,359 --> 00:35:33,750
but we're also a lot of like very uh
typea<00:35:31.359> grade<00:35:31.839> grind<00:35:32.480> folks<00:35:32.800> who<00:35:33.040> work<00:35:33.280> for<00:35:33.440> for

1623
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typea grade grind folks who work for for

1624
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typea grade grind folks who work for for
a<00:35:33.920> warehouse.<00:35:34.400> I<00:35:34.560> guess<00:35:34.800> maybe<00:35:35.280> a<00:35:35.520> little<00:35:35.680> bit

1625
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a warehouse. I guess maybe a little bit

1626
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:37,510
a warehouse. I guess maybe a little bit
different<00:35:36.079> in<00:35:36.320> that<00:35:36.560> regard<00:35:36.880> sometimes.<00:35:37.359> We

1627
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different in that regard sometimes. We

1628
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different in that regard sometimes. We
have<00:35:37.599> a<00:35:37.920> built-in<00:35:38.480> design<00:35:38.800> wing.<00:35:39.280> We<00:35:39.599> have<00:35:39.839> a

1629
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have a built-in design wing. We have a

1630
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have a built-in design wing. We have a
lot<00:35:40.240> of<00:35:40.640> uh<00:35:40.920> client<00:35:41.920> service<00:35:42.640> uh<00:35:42.960> stuff<00:35:43.200> for

1631
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lot of uh client service uh stuff for

1632
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lot of uh client service uh stuff for
our<00:35:43.760> for<00:35:44.000> the<00:35:44.240> different<00:35:44.480> creators<00:35:44.880> who<00:35:45.040> we

1633
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our for the different creators who we

1634
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our for the different creators who we
handle.<00:35:45.920> So<00:35:46.160> we<00:35:46.400> have<00:35:46.480> a<00:35:46.640> lot<00:35:46.720> of<00:35:46.880> sort<00:35:47.119> of

1635
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handle. So we have a lot of sort of

1636
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handle. So we have a lot of sort of
people

1637
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people

1638
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people
who<00:35:49.599> we<00:35:50.320> uh<00:35:50.560> often<00:35:50.880> are<00:35:51.119> trying<00:35:51.280> to<00:35:51.440> intrude<00:35:51.760> on

1639
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who we uh often are trying to intrude on

1640
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who we uh often are trying to intrude on
management<00:35:52.400> rights<00:35:52.640> in<00:35:52.800> a<00:35:52.960> more<00:35:53.119> distinct<00:35:53.520> way

1641
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management rights in a more distinct way

1642
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management rights in a more distinct way
than<00:35:54.640> perhaps<00:35:55.359> uh<00:35:55.599> other<00:35:55.839> goals<00:35:56.320> that<00:35:56.560> you

1643
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than perhaps uh other goals that you

1644
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than perhaps uh other goals that you
might<00:35:57.040> consider.<00:35:57.760> So<00:35:58.000> we<00:35:58.160> have<00:35:58.320> found<00:35:58.480> that

1645
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:58,720
might consider. So we have found that

1646
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,710
might consider. So we have found that
uniquely<00:35:59.200> challenging.<00:35:59.839> But<00:36:00.000> also

1647
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uniquely challenging. But also

1648
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uniquely challenging. But also
negotiating<00:36:01.359> against<00:36:01.760> our<00:36:01.920> new<00:36:02.160> CEO,<00:36:02.640> well

1649
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negotiating against our new CEO, well

1650
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negotiating against our new CEO, well
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1651
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:06,880
negotiating against our new CEO who uh

1652
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negotiating against our new CEO who uh
has<00:36:07.119> had<00:36:07.359> no<00:36:07.680> experience<00:36:08.800> uh<00:36:09.040> working<00:36:10.000> who<00:36:10.480> has

1653
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has had no experience uh working who has

1654
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has had no experience uh working who has
experience<00:36:11.359> working<00:36:11.680> on<00:36:12.240> boards<00:36:12.640> and

1655
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experience working on boards and

1656
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experience working on boards and
administration<00:36:13.520> of<00:36:13.839> larger<00:36:14.160> e-commerce

1657
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administration of larger e-commerce

1658
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administration of larger e-commerce
companies,<00:36:15.440> has<00:36:15.680> never<00:36:16.000> actually<00:36:16.800> surprise

1659
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companies, has never actually surprise

1660
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companies, has never actually surprise
surprise<00:36:18.160> uh<00:36:18.320> had<00:36:18.480> to<00:36:18.640> negotiate<00:36:19.040> with<00:36:19.200> a

1661
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surprise uh had to negotiate with a

1662
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:23,190
surprise uh had to negotiate with a
union<00:36:19.800> before.<00:36:20.880> And<00:36:21.200> so<00:36:21.920> we<00:36:22.320> encounter<00:36:22.800> both

1663
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union before. And so we encounter both

1664
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union before. And so we encounter both
our<00:36:23.599> own<00:36:24.640> ignorance<00:36:24.960> and<00:36:25.200> limitations<00:36:26.079> as

1665
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our own ignorance and limitations as

1666
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our own ignorance and limitations as
folks<00:36:26.720> kind<00:36:26.880> of<00:36:27.839> diying<00:36:28.560> and<00:36:29.040> leaning<00:36:29.440> on<00:36:29.680> Mark

1667
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folks kind of diying and leaning on Mark

1668
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folks kind of diying and leaning on Mark
very<00:36:30.320> heavily<00:36:31.040> for<00:36:31.359> assistance<00:36:32.000> a<00:36:32.160> lot<00:36:32.320> of<00:36:32.400> the

1669
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very heavily for assistance a lot of the

1670
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very heavily for assistance a lot of the
time<00:36:32.640> through<00:36:32.880> this<00:36:33.119> process.<00:36:33.599> But<00:36:33.680> also<00:36:34.000> that

1671
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time through this process. But also that

1672
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,829
time through this process. But also that
we<00:36:34.480> encounter<00:36:34.960> sort<00:36:35.119> of<00:36:36.040> um<00:36:37.040> you<00:36:37.200> know<00:36:37.280> we<00:36:37.440> we

1673
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:37,839
we encounter sort of um you know we we

1674
00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:41,190
we encounter sort of um you know we we
don't<00:36:38.240> have<00:36:38.640> an<00:36:39.040> experienced<00:36:40.160> uh<00:36:40.640> party<00:36:40.960> on

1675
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:41,200
don't have an experienced uh party on

1676
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,750
don't have an experienced uh party on
the<00:36:41.359> other<00:36:41.520> end.<00:36:42.160> So,<00:36:42.400> we're<00:36:42.640> kind<00:36:42.880> of<00:36:43.200> in<00:36:43.520> this

1677
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the other end. So, we're kind of in this

1678
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,670
the other end. So, we're kind of in this
weird<00:36:44.640> uh<00:36:44.800> both<00:36:45.119> time<00:36:45.359> of<00:36:45.599> conflict<00:36:46.160> but<00:36:46.480> also

1679
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:47,680
weird uh both time of conflict but also

1680
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,630
weird uh both time of conflict but also
uh<00:36:48.320> just<00:36:49.119> trying<00:36:49.359> to<00:36:49.599> figure<00:36:49.760> it<00:36:49.920> out,<00:36:50.400> just

1681
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:50,640
uh just trying to figure it out, just

1682
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,750
uh just trying to figure it out, just
make<00:36:50.800> our<00:36:51.040> way<00:36:51.200> through.<00:36:52.560> Is<00:36:52.800> that<00:36:53.440> more<00:36:53.599> or

1683
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:53,760
make our way through. Is that more or

1684
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,150
make our way through. Is that more or

1685
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,200


1686
00:36:57,150 --> 00:36:57,160
less? Sure. Yeah.

1687
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,550
less? Sure. Yeah.
Um<00:36:58.160> so<00:36:58.720> maybe<00:36:59.280> uh<00:36:59.440> moving<00:36:59.680> on<00:36:59.920> to<00:37:00.079> another

1688
00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:00,560
Um so maybe uh moving on to another

1689
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,030
Um so maybe uh moving on to another
question<00:37:00.960> here.

1690
00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:02,040
question here.

1691
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,710
question here.
Um<00:37:03.040> is<00:37:03.280> there<00:37:03.760> outside<00:37:04.079> of<00:37:04.320> collective

1692
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:04,720
Um is there outside of collective

1693
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,589
Um is there outside of collective
bargaining,<00:37:05.359> is<00:37:05.520> there<00:37:05.760> any<00:37:06.320> kind<00:37:06.560> of<00:37:07.200> other

1694
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:07,599
bargaining, is there any kind of other

1695
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,670
bargaining, is there any kind of other
difficulties?<00:37:08.240> I<00:37:08.480> mean<00:37:08.560> Sam<00:37:08.960> talked<00:37:09.280> a<00:37:09.520> lot

1696
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:09,680
difficulties? I mean Sam talked a lot

1697
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,990
difficulties? I mean Sam talked a lot
about<00:37:10.560> difficulties<00:37:11.119> that<00:37:11.359> you're<00:37:11.599> having<00:37:11.760> as

1698
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:12,000
about difficulties that you're having as

1699
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,190
about difficulties that you're having as
a<00:37:12.240> union<00:37:12.880> and<00:37:13.280> facing<00:37:14.000> really<00:37:14.400> unpreced<00:37:15.040> on

1700
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:15,200
a union and facing really unpreced on

1701
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,190
a union and facing really unpreced on
the<00:37:15.359> federal<00:37:15.599> level.<00:37:16.320> This<00:37:16.640> never<00:37:16.880> happened

1702
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:17,200
the federal level. This never happened

1703
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,870
the federal level. This never happened
before,<00:37:17.680> right?<00:37:18.000> This<00:37:18.160> is<00:37:18.400> this<00:37:18.640> is

1704
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:18,880
before, right? This is this is

1705
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,710
before, right? This is this is
unprecedented

1706
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:20,720
unprecedented

1707
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,829
unprecedented
um<00:37:21.200> kinds<00:37:21.520> of<00:37:21.680> interference.<00:37:22.640> Um<00:37:23.040> and<00:37:23.280> it's

1708
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:23,839
um kinds of interference. Um and it's

1709
00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:26,230
um kinds of interference. Um and it's
just<00:37:24.079> part<00:37:24.320> of<00:37:24.400> a<00:37:24.640> bigger,<00:37:25.599> you<00:37:25.760> know,<00:37:25.920> mission

1710
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:26,240
just part of a bigger, you know, mission

1711
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,670
just part of a bigger, you know, mission
by<00:37:26.480> the<00:37:26.720> current<00:37:27.320> administration.<00:37:28.400> Um<00:37:29.119> but

1712
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:29,680
by the current administration. Um but

1713
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,270
by the current administration. Um but
other<00:37:29.920> other<00:37:30.160> than<00:37:30.240> that,<00:37:30.560> are<00:37:30.800> there<00:37:30.960> any

1714
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:31,280
other other than that, are there any

1715
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,349
other other than that, are there any
other<00:37:31.680> kind<00:37:32.000> of<00:37:33.040> uh<00:37:33.359> challenges<00:37:34.320> specific<00:37:34.880> to

1716
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:35,359
other kind of uh challenges specific to

1717
00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:37,109
other kind of uh challenges specific to
that<00:37:35.520> that<00:37:35.839> you<00:37:36.079> find<00:37:36.400> especially

1718
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:37,119
that that you find especially

1719
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,270
that that you find especially
troublesome<00:37:37.839> or<00:37:38.560> or<00:37:39.359> uh<00:37:39.839> uh<00:37:40.640> you<00:37:40.800> know<00:37:41.040> in<00:37:41.200> in

1720
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:41,280
troublesome or or uh uh you know in in

1721
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,990
troublesome or or uh uh you know in in
in<00:37:42.160> your<00:37:42.480> conduct<00:37:42.880> as<00:37:43.119> a<00:37:43.280> union,<00:37:43.680> right?

1722
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:44,000
in your conduct as a union, right?

1723
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,829
in your conduct as a union, right?
Whether<00:37:44.240> that's<00:37:44.640> filing<00:37:44.960> grievances<00:37:45.520> or

1724
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:45,839
Whether that's filing grievances or

1725
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:48,069
Whether that's filing grievances or
organizing<00:37:46.400> or<00:37:46.640> collective<00:37:47.040> bargaining.<00:37:48.000> Is

1726
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:48,079
organizing or collective bargaining. Is

1727
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:50,550
organizing or collective bargaining. Is
there<00:37:48.320> any<00:37:48.640> anything<00:37:49.119> you<00:37:49.359> want<00:37:49.520> to<00:37:50.079> add<00:37:50.400> to

1728
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:50,560
there any anything you want to add to

1729
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,710
there any anything you want to add to
what<00:37:50.720> you've<00:37:51.040> already<00:37:51.200> said?

1730
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what you've already said?

1731
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what you've already said?
Yeah,<00:37:52.960> I<00:37:53.200> mean<00:37:53.359> I<00:37:53.599> can<00:37:53.960> add<00:37:54.960> it's<00:37:55.359> real

1732
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Yeah, I mean I can add it's real

1733
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Yeah, I mean I can add it's real
troublesome<00:37:56.000> that<00:37:56.160> they've<00:37:56.400> gutted<00:37:56.880> the

1734
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troublesome that they've gutted the

1735
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troublesome that they've gutted the
National<00:37:57.359> Labor<00:37:57.680> Relations<00:37:58.079> Board.<00:37:58.880> Um<00:37:59.520> we

1736
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National Labor Relations Board. Um we

1737
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National Labor Relations Board. Um we
have<00:38:00.160> we're<00:38:00.480> supposed<00:38:00.640> to<00:38:00.800> have<00:38:00.880> a<00:38:01.040> labor

1738
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have we're supposed to have a labor

1739
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have we're supposed to have a labor
relations<00:38:01.760> rep<00:38:02.000> for<00:38:02.240> all<00:38:02.400> 10<00:38:02.640> regions<00:38:02.960> of<00:38:03.040> the

1740
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relations rep for all 10 regions of the

1741
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relations rep for all 10 regions of the
Forest<00:38:03.599> Service<00:38:04.400> and<00:38:05.280> uh<00:38:05.760> nine<00:38:06.000> out<00:38:06.240> of<00:38:06.320> 10<00:38:06.480> of

1742
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Forest Service and uh nine out of 10 of

1743
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Forest Service and uh nine out of 10 of
them<00:38:06.880> have<00:38:07.200> resigned<00:38:07.680> or<00:38:07.920> left<00:38:08.160> their

1744
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them have resigned or left their

1745
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them have resigned or left their
position<00:38:08.800> in<00:38:09.040> the<00:38:09.119> last<00:38:09.280> 3<00:38:09.520> months.<00:38:10.079> So<00:38:10.320> we

1746
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position in the last 3 months. So we

1747
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position in the last 3 months. So we
have<00:38:10.880> and<00:38:11.119> the<00:38:11.280> last<00:38:11.440> one<00:38:11.599> is<00:38:11.760> soon<00:38:11.920> to<00:38:12.000> be

1748
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have and the last one is soon to be

1749
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have and the last one is soon to be
gone.<00:38:12.400> So<00:38:12.560> we<00:38:12.800> have<00:38:13.119> literally<00:38:13.440> no<00:38:13.680> point<00:38:13.920> of

1750
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gone. So we have literally no point of

1751
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gone. So we have literally no point of
contact<00:38:14.800> for<00:38:15.359> basic<00:38:15.839> functions<00:38:16.240> of<00:38:16.400> a<00:38:16.560> union

1752
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contact for basic functions of a union

1753
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contact for basic functions of a union
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1754
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like uh filing information requests for

1755
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like uh filing information requests for
information<00:38:19.440> that<00:38:19.760> should<00:38:19.920> be<00:38:20.160> publicly

1756
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information that should be publicly

1757
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information that should be publicly
available<00:38:21.359> about<00:38:21.680> what's<00:38:22.079> going<00:38:22.160> on.<00:38:22.480> You

1758
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available about what's going on. You

1759
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available about what's going on. You
know,<00:38:22.720> we've<00:38:22.960> been<00:38:23.119> able<00:38:23.359> to<00:38:23.440> crowdsource

1760
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know, we've been able to crowdsource

1761
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know, we've been able to crowdsource
data<00:38:24.720> like<00:38:24.960> the<00:38:25.200> fact<00:38:25.359> that<00:38:25.599> we've<00:38:25.920> lost<00:38:26.240> 25<00:38:26.640> to

1762
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data like the fact that we've lost 25 to

1763
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data like the fact that we've lost 25 to
30%<00:38:27.520> of<00:38:27.760> Forest<00:38:28.079> Service<00:38:28.400> employees<00:38:28.800> in<00:38:28.960> the

1764
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30% of Forest Service employees in the

1765
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30% of Forest Service employees in the
last<00:38:29.200> 3<00:38:29.440> months<00:38:30.079> here<00:38:30.320> in<00:38:30.560> Montana.<00:38:31.520> Um,<00:38:32.320> but

1766
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last 3 months here in Montana. Um, but

1767
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last 3 months here in Montana. Um, but
that<00:38:32.880> should<00:38:33.040> be<00:38:33.200> information<00:38:33.520> that<00:38:33.839> is

1768
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that should be information that is

1769
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that should be information that is
available<00:38:34.240> to<00:38:34.480> all<00:38:34.560> of<00:38:34.720> us<00:38:35.040> because<00:38:35.440> again

1770
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available to all of us because again

1771
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available to all of us because again
this<00:38:36.480> is<00:38:36.800> these<00:38:37.040> are<00:38:37.200> public<00:38:37.520> goods,<00:38:37.920> public

1772
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this is these are public goods, public

1773
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this is these are public goods, public
employees<00:38:39.119> should<00:38:39.359> be<00:38:39.599> public<00:38:39.920> information

1774
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employees should be public information

1775
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employees should be public information
and<00:38:40.720> it's<00:38:40.960> been<00:38:41.119> troublesome<00:38:41.599> even<00:38:41.760> for

1776
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and it's been troublesome even for

1777
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and it's been troublesome even for
journalists<00:38:42.720> tracking<00:38:43.119> that<00:38:43.280> sort<00:38:43.440> of<00:38:43.520> thing

1778
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journalists tracking that sort of thing

1779
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journalists tracking that sort of thing
down.<00:38:44.400> Um,<00:38:44.800> so<00:38:44.960> we're<00:38:45.200> dealing<00:38:45.359> with<00:38:45.440> that.

1780
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down. Um, so we're dealing with that.

1781
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down. Um, so we're dealing with that.
We're<00:38:45.920> dealing<00:38:46.079> with<00:38:46.160> the<00:38:46.400> framework<00:38:46.920> of<00:38:47.920> how

1782
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We're dealing with the framework of how

1783
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We're dealing with the framework of how
labor<00:38:48.560> relations<00:38:48.960> are<00:38:49.119> supposed<00:38:49.280> to<00:38:49.359> work<00:38:49.520> at

1784
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labor relations are supposed to work at

1785
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labor relations are supposed to work at
the<00:38:49.839> federal<00:38:50.079> level<00:38:50.320> at<00:38:50.400> least<00:38:50.800> truly<00:38:51.119> being

1786
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the federal level at least truly being

1787
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the federal level at least truly being
gutted<00:38:52.079> and<00:38:52.320> that's<00:38:52.640> a<00:38:52.880> a<00:38:53.040> big<00:38:53.200> addition<00:38:53.520> to

1788
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gutted and that's a a big addition to

1789
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gutted and that's a a big addition to
the<00:38:53.760> uphill<00:38:54.160> climb<00:38:54.400> that<00:38:54.640> we're<00:38:54.800> dealing

1790
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the uphill climb that we're dealing

1791
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the uphill climb that we're dealing
with.

1792
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1793
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I<00:39:00.320> mean,<00:39:00.480> I<00:39:00.720> think<00:39:00.880> as<00:39:01.280> educators,<00:39:01.920> of<00:39:02.079> course,

1794
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I mean, I think as educators, of course,

1795
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I mean, I think as educators, of course,
like<00:39:02.560> the<00:39:02.800> looming<00:39:03.680> loss<00:39:04.000> of<00:39:04.160> the<00:39:04.320> Department

1796
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like the looming loss of the Department

1797
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like the looming loss of the Department
of<00:39:04.800> Education,<00:39:06.000> um,<00:39:06.160> or<00:39:06.480> that<00:39:06.800> threat<00:39:07.440> is<00:39:07.599> is<00:39:07.920> a

1798
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of Education, um, or that threat is is a

1799
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of Education, um, or that threat is is a
thing<00:39:08.160> that<00:39:08.320> weighs<00:39:08.640> heavily<00:39:08.960> on<00:39:09.119> us.<00:39:10.119> Um,<00:39:11.119> we

1800
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thing that weighs heavily on us. Um, we

1801
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thing that weighs heavily on us. Um, we
get,<00:39:12.079> uh,<00:39:12.400> title<00:39:12.920> funding,<00:39:13.920> you<00:39:14.160> know,<00:39:14.400> comes

1802
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get, uh, title funding, you know, comes

1803
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get, uh, title funding, you know, comes
filters<00:39:15.359> from<00:39:15.599> the<00:39:15.839> federal<00:39:16.160> government<00:39:16.640> to

1804
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filters from the federal government to

1805
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filters from the federal government to
the<00:39:17.200> state,<00:39:17.520> which<00:39:17.920> of<00:39:18.160> course<00:39:18.320> affects<00:39:18.720> our

1806
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the state, which of course affects our

1807
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the state, which of course affects our
budgets<00:39:19.280> and<00:39:19.520> what<00:39:19.680> we<00:39:19.920> can<00:39:20.240> negotiate<00:39:20.800> for.

1808
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budgets and what we can negotiate for.

1809
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budgets and what we can negotiate for.
Um<00:39:22.960> um<00:39:23.200> and<00:39:23.440> I<00:39:23.599> think<00:39:23.760> at<00:39:23.920> the<00:39:24.079> state<00:39:24.320> level

1810
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Um um and I think at the state level

1811
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Um um and I think at the state level
similarly<00:39:25.839> there's<00:39:26.400> over<00:39:26.560> the<00:39:26.720> last<00:39:26.880> few

1812
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similarly there's over the last few

1813
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similarly there's over the last few
years<00:39:27.280> like<00:39:27.440> legislation<00:39:28.000> that<00:39:28.320> is<00:39:28.920> just<00:39:29.920> out

1814
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years like legislation that is just out

1815
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years like legislation that is just out
or<00:39:30.800> you<00:39:31.040> know<00:39:31.359> out<00:39:31.599> of<00:39:31.760> touch<00:39:31.920> with<00:39:32.160> what<00:39:33.119> uh<00:39:33.280> is

1816
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or you know out of touch with what uh is

1817
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,069
or you know out of touch with what uh is
going<00:39:33.760> on<00:39:34.079> in<00:39:34.480> schools<00:39:35.200> um<00:39:35.280> and<00:39:35.440> what<00:39:35.680> teachers

1818
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going on in schools um and what teachers

1819
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going on in schools um and what teachers
are<00:39:36.320> doing.<00:39:37.040> Um<00:39:37.280> and<00:39:37.520> our<00:39:37.760> union<00:39:38.000> ends<00:39:38.240> up

1820
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are doing. Um and our union ends up

1821
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are doing. Um and our union ends up
spending<00:39:38.640> a<00:39:38.960> lot<00:39:39.040> of<00:39:39.280> time<00:39:39.760> on<00:39:40.079> these<00:39:40.400> little

1822
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spending a lot of time on these little

1823
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spending a lot of time on these little
bits<00:39:40.960> of<00:39:41.119> legislation<00:39:41.599> and<00:39:41.920> fighting<00:39:42.160> these

1824
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bits of legislation and fighting these

1825
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bits of legislation and fighting these
little<00:39:42.560> bits<00:39:42.720> of<00:39:42.880> legislation<00:39:44.160> um<00:39:44.880> you<00:39:45.040> know

1826
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little bits of legislation um you know

1827
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little bits of legislation um you know
to<00:39:45.440> make<00:39:45.599> our<00:39:45.760> students<00:39:46.320> lives<00:39:46.720> better<00:39:46.960> and<00:39:47.200> to

1828
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to make our students lives better and to

1829
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to make our students lives better and to
make<00:39:47.520> our<00:39:47.680> teachers<00:39:48.079> lives<00:39:48.400> better.<00:39:49.320> Um<00:39:50.320> but

1830
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make our teachers lives better. Um but

1831
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make our teachers lives better. Um but
that<00:39:50.960> legislation<00:39:51.520> is<00:39:51.680> is<00:39:52.000> out<00:39:52.240> of<00:39:52.400> touch<00:39:52.560> and

1832
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that legislation is is out of touch and

1833
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that legislation is is out of touch and
and<00:39:53.760> not<00:39:54.160> reasonable<00:39:54.720> to<00:39:54.960> implement.<00:39:55.520> Um<00:39:55.839> and

1834
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and not reasonable to implement. Um and

1835
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and not reasonable to implement. Um and
and<00:39:56.320> I<00:39:56.560> think<00:39:56.640> that<00:39:57.040> that<00:39:57.440> tends<00:39:58.079> at<00:39:58.160> least

1836
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and I think that that tends at least

1837
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and I think that that tends at least
from<00:39:58.640> my<00:39:58.960> personal<00:39:59.280> perspective<00:39:59.839> feel<00:40:00.720> um

1838
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from my personal perspective feel um

1839
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from my personal perspective feel um
like<00:40:01.280> a<00:40:01.520> big<00:40:01.839> drain<00:40:02.240> on<00:40:02.480> our<00:40:02.720> time<00:40:02.880> and<00:40:03.119> our

1840
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like a big drain on our time and our

1841
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like a big drain on our time and our
organizing<00:40:03.920> energy<00:40:04.800> and<00:40:05.200> and<00:40:05.599> of<00:40:05.760> course<00:40:06.400> part

1842
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organizing energy and and of course part

1843
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organizing energy and and of course part
of<00:40:06.800> that<00:40:06.960> is<00:40:07.440> is<00:40:07.920> strategic<00:40:08.480> as<00:40:08.720> well.

1844
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of that is is strategic as well.

1845
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of that is is strategic as well.
Um<00:40:12.079> yeah,<00:40:12.320> and<00:40:12.560> I<00:40:12.720> I<00:40:13.119> think<00:40:13.359> one<00:40:13.599> of<00:40:13.760> the<00:40:14.000> things

1846
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Um yeah, and I I think one of the things

1847
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Um yeah, and I I think one of the things
that<00:40:15.200> unions<00:40:15.760> really<00:40:16.079> can<00:40:16.480> help<00:40:17.119> with<00:40:17.760> and<00:40:18.079> one

1848
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that unions really can help with and one

1849
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that unions really can help with and one
of<00:40:18.480> the<00:40:18.640> things<00:40:19.040> that<00:40:19.839> um<00:40:20.599> MFP<00:40:21.599> does<00:40:21.920> well,

1850
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of the things that um MFP does well,

1851
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of the things that um MFP does well,
they've<00:40:22.720> got<00:40:22.800> a<00:40:23.040> rapid<00:40:23.440> response<00:40:24.000> team<00:40:24.800> and<00:40:25.119> we

1852
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they've got a rapid response team and we

1853
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they've got a rapid response team and we
get

1854
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get

1855
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get
like<00:40:27.119> an<00:40:27.440> over<00:40:27.920> it's<00:40:28.400> a<00:40:28.560> lot<00:40:28.640> of<00:40:28.800> emails.<00:40:29.359> Every

1856
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like an over it's a lot of emails. Every

1857
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like an over it's a lot of emails. Every
time<00:40:29.839> there<00:40:30.079> is<00:40:30.240> a<00:40:30.480> piece<00:40:30.640> of

1858
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time there is a piece of

1859
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time there is a piece of
legislation<00:40:32.480> in<00:40:33.359> the<00:40:33.880> legislature,<00:40:34.880> we<00:40:35.119> get

1860
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legislation in the legislature, we get

1861
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legislation in the legislature, we get
an<00:40:35.680> email<00:40:36.000> that<00:40:36.320> says<00:40:36.720> call.<00:40:37.520> Here's<00:40:37.920> what<00:40:38.079> it

1862
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an email that says call. Here's what it

1863
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an email that says call. Here's what it
is.<00:40:38.800> here's<00:40:39.200> the<00:40:39.480> number,<00:40:40.480> you<00:40:40.640> know,<00:40:40.800> call,

1864
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is. here's the number, you know, call,

1865
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is. here's the number, you know, call,
send<00:40:41.599> an<00:40:41.839> email.<00:40:42.480> And<00:40:42.720> it<00:40:42.960> is<00:40:43.200> really<00:40:43.440> helpful.

1866
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send an email. And it is really helpful.

1867
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send an email. And it is really helpful.
I<00:40:44.240> mean,<00:40:44.400> it's<00:40:44.720> been<00:40:44.880> amazing<00:40:45.680> this<00:40:46.000> session.

1868
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I mean, it's been amazing this session.

1869
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I mean, it's been amazing this session.
It's<00:40:46.720> been<00:40:46.880> an<00:40:47.200> onslaught.<00:40:48.000> Like,<00:40:48.480> every

1870
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It's been an onslaught. Like, every

1871
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It's been an onslaught. Like, every
day<00:40:50.560> there's<00:40:51.040> a<00:40:51.359> fire<00:40:52.240> to<00:40:52.480> put<00:40:52.640> out.<00:40:53.200> But<00:40:53.359> I

1872
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day there's a fire to put out. But I

1873
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day there's a fire to put out. But I
think<00:40:53.760> coming<00:40:54.000> back<00:40:54.160> to<00:40:54.400> your<00:40:54.720> point<00:40:55.520> that<00:40:56.400> it

1874
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think coming back to your point that it

1875
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think coming back to your point that it
really<00:40:57.240> matters<00:40:58.240> when<00:40:58.640> people<00:40:59.119> call,<00:40:59.920> when

1876
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really matters when people call, when

1877
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,069
really matters when people call, when
people

1878
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:02,079
people

1879
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people
um<00:41:02.400> express<00:41:02.800> their<00:41:03.319> opinions.<00:41:04.400> We've<00:41:04.720> had

1880
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um express their opinions. We've had

1881
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um express their opinions. We've had
legislators<00:41:05.839> say<00:41:06.359> publicly,<00:41:07.359> "I<00:41:07.680> don't<00:41:07.839> want

1882
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:08,000
legislators say publicly, "I don't want

1883
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legislators say publicly, "I don't want
to<00:41:08.160> vote<00:41:08.400> this<00:41:08.760> way,<00:41:09.760> but<00:41:10.319> I've<00:41:10.640> gotten<00:41:10.880> so

1884
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to vote this way, but I've gotten so

1885
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,470
to vote this way, but I've gotten so
many<00:41:11.359> calls<00:41:11.839> that<00:41:12.079> I<00:41:12.400> have<00:41:12.839> to."<00:41:13.839> And<00:41:14.000> and<00:41:14.319> I

1886
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many calls that I have to." And and I

1887
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many calls that I have to." And and I
think<00:41:14.640> that's<00:41:14.800> what<00:41:15.040> it's<00:41:15.200> all<00:41:15.440> about,<00:41:16.240> right?

1888
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think that's what it's all about, right?

1889
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think that's what it's all about, right?
You<00:41:17.000> want<00:41:18.000> your<00:41:18.480> legislator<00:41:19.200> to<00:41:19.599> represent

1890
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You want your legislator to represent

1891
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You want your legislator to represent
you,<00:41:20.720> but<00:41:20.960> that<00:41:21.280> means<00:41:21.599> making<00:41:21.920> those<00:41:22.160> calls.

1892
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you, but that means making those calls.

1893
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you, but that means making those calls.
And<00:41:22.640> I<00:41:22.800> think<00:41:22.880> that's<00:41:23.119> one<00:41:23.280> of<00:41:23.359> the<00:41:23.520> things

1894
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And I think that's one of the things

1895
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And I think that's one of the things
unions<00:41:24.319> can<00:41:24.560> do<00:41:24.800> well<00:41:25.440> is<00:41:25.839> organize<00:41:26.400> people,

1896
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unions can do well is organize people,

1897
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unions can do well is organize people,
encourage<00:41:27.359> people<00:41:27.599> to<00:41:27.839> make<00:41:28.079> those<00:41:28.400> calls.

1898
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encourage people to make those calls.

1899
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encourage people to make those calls.
Um,<00:41:30.160> and<00:41:30.319> and<00:41:31.079> organize<00:41:32.079> the<00:41:32.400> organized<00:41:33.839> if

1900
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Um, and and organize the organized if

1901
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Um, and and organize the organized if
that<00:41:34.240> makes<00:41:34.319> sense.<00:41:34.480> Yeah,<00:41:34.720> I<00:41:34.960> think<00:41:35.040> it<00:41:35.119> it

1902
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that makes sense. Yeah, I think it it

1903
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that makes sense. Yeah, I think it it
has<00:41:35.680> worked<00:41:35.920> well<00:41:36.400> this<00:41:36.720> last<00:41:36.960> session.<00:41:37.920> Um<00:41:38.880> I

1904
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has worked well this last session. Um I

1905
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has worked well this last session. Um I
think<00:41:39.440> I<00:41:39.760> think<00:41:40.000> then<00:41:40.560> personally<00:41:41.119> I<00:41:41.359> also

1906
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think I think then personally I also

1907
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think I think then personally I also
feel<00:41:41.760> our<00:41:42.000> union<00:41:42.240> spends<00:41:42.480> a<00:41:42.640> lot<00:41:42.720> of<00:41:42.880> time<00:41:42.960> on

1908
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feel our union spends a lot of time on

1909
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feel our union spends a lot of time on

1910
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1911
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that. We could

1912
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that. We could
we<00:41:45.760> could<00:41:45.920> be<00:41:46.000> teaching<00:41:46.400> we<00:41:46.560> could<00:41:46.720> be

1913
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we could be teaching we could be

1914
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we could be teaching we could be
teaching.

1915
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teaching.

1916
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teaching.
Um

1917
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Um

1918
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Um
yeah.<00:41:51.760> Um,<00:41:52.480> I<00:41:52.800> think<00:41:53.119> on<00:41:53.440> like<00:41:53.920> the<00:41:54.560> hopeful

1919
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yeah. Um, I think on like the hopeful

1920
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yeah. Um, I think on like the hopeful
note<00:41:55.200> of<00:41:55.359> like<00:41:55.520> what<00:41:55.760> a<00:41:56.000> union<00:41:56.400> can<00:41:56.640> do<00:41:57.200> is<00:41:57.520> that

1921
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note of like what a union can do is that

1922
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note of like what a union can do is that
for<00:41:58.880> uh,<00:41:59.040> you<00:41:59.200> know,<00:41:59.440> we<00:41:59.599> have<00:41:59.680> a<00:41:59.839> lot<00:41:59.920> of

1923
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for uh, you know, we have a lot of

1924
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for uh, you know, we have a lot of
younger<00:42:00.480> employees<00:42:01.119> at<00:42:01.359> the<00:42:01.440> warehouse<00:42:01.920> that

1925
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younger employees at the warehouse that

1926
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younger employees at the warehouse that
haven't<00:42:02.960> experienced<00:42:03.359> the<00:42:03.599> idea<00:42:03.760> of<00:42:04.079> being

1927
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haven't experienced the idea of being

1928
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haven't experienced the idea of being
able<00:42:04.560> to<00:42:04.800> take<00:42:05.040> and<00:42:05.200> hold<00:42:05.520> power.<00:42:06.079> Like<00:42:06.560> I

1929
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able to take and hold power. Like I

1930
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able to take and hold power. Like I
understand

1931
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understand

1932
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understand
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1933
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the everything that is the federal

1934
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the everything that is the federal
government<00:42:11.440> right<00:42:11.760> now.<00:42:12.240> But<00:42:12.480> also,<00:42:12.960> you

1935
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government right now. But also, you

1936
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government right now. But also, you
know,<00:42:13.200> when<00:42:13.440> you're<00:42:13.599> just<00:42:13.760> an<00:42:14.000> e-commerce

1937
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know, when you're just an e-commerce

1938
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know, when you're just an e-commerce
company<00:42:14.880> and<00:42:15.200> you<00:42:15.359> know,<00:42:15.520> capitalism<00:42:16.079> is<00:42:16.240> the

1939
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company and you know, capitalism is the

1940
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company and you know, capitalism is the
bad<00:42:16.640> guy,<00:42:17.040> you're<00:42:17.440> at<00:42:17.599> the<00:42:17.760> vicissitudes<00:42:18.560> of

1941
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bad guy, you're at the vicissitudes of

1942
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bad guy, you're at the vicissitudes of
the<00:42:19.040> market,<00:42:19.440> of<00:42:19.760> tariffs,<00:42:20.480> of<00:42:20.960> of<00:42:21.680> whims<00:42:22.480> of

1943
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the market, of tariffs, of of whims of

1944
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the market, of tariffs, of of whims of
management<00:42:23.760> that<00:42:24.400> so<00:42:24.720> many<00:42:24.880> people,<00:42:25.280> you

1945
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management that so many people, you

1946
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management that so many people, you
know,<00:42:25.839> Gen<00:42:26.160> X,<00:42:26.640> you<00:42:26.800> know,<00:42:27.040> my<00:42:27.280> generation<00:42:27.680> on

1947
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know, Gen X, you know, my generation on

1948
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know, Gen X, you know, my generation on
down,<00:42:28.240> have<00:42:28.480> just<00:42:29.040> come<00:42:29.280> to<00:42:29.520> think<00:42:29.680> of<00:42:29.920> as

1949
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down, have just come to think of as

1950
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down, have just come to think of as
common<00:42:30.960> in<00:42:31.200> the<00:42:31.359> workplace,<00:42:32.000> a<00:42:32.319> a<00:42:32.800> capriccious

1951
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common in the workplace, a a capriccious

1952
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common in the workplace, a a capriccious
boss<00:42:33.680> who<00:42:34.000> lays<00:42:34.160> off<00:42:34.400> people<00:42:34.720> or<00:42:35.359> comes<00:42:35.680> up

1953
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boss who lays off people or comes up

1954
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boss who lays off people or comes up
with<00:42:36.160> varying<00:42:36.960> new<00:42:37.280> ideas<00:42:37.599> and<00:42:37.920> plans<00:42:38.240> for

1955
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with varying new ideas and plans for

1956
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with varying new ideas and plans for
cuts<00:42:39.480> and<00:42:40.480> the<00:42:40.800> formation<00:42:41.200> of<00:42:41.359> a<00:42:41.680> union,<00:42:42.079> we

1957
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cuts and the formation of a union, we

1958
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cuts and the formation of a union, we
also<00:42:42.720> encountered<00:42:43.400> a<00:42:44.400> situation<00:42:44.960> of<00:42:45.119> some

1959
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also encountered a situation of some

1960
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also encountered a situation of some
budgetary<00:42:45.920> concerns<00:42:46.520> that<00:42:47.520> did<00:42:47.760> have<00:42:48.000> to<00:42:48.160> come

1961
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budgetary concerns that did have to come

1962
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budgetary concerns that did have to come
and<00:42:48.720> be<00:42:48.880> negotiated<00:42:49.440> with<00:42:49.599> us.<00:42:49.839> It<00:42:50.079> was

1963
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and be negotiated with us. It was

1964
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and be negotiated with us. It was
uncomfortable.<00:42:50.800> It<00:42:51.040> was<00:42:51.119> stressful,<00:42:51.680> but

1965
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uncomfortable. It was stressful, but

1966
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uncomfortable. It was stressful, but
also<00:42:53.680> the<00:42:53.920> proof<00:42:54.319> positive<00:42:54.640> of<00:42:54.880> what<00:42:55.040> it<00:42:55.280> can

1967
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also the proof positive of what it can

1968
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also the proof positive of what it can
be<00:42:55.520> like<00:42:55.680> for<00:42:56.000> when<00:42:56.240> they<00:42:56.400> come<00:42:56.560> to<00:42:56.720> a<00:42:56.960> 47

1969
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be like for when they come to a 47

1970
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be like for when they come to a 47
person<00:42:57.839> union<00:42:58.079> and<00:42:58.319> say,<00:42:58.480> "We<00:42:58.800> want<00:42:58.880> to<00:42:59.119> lay

1971
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:59,200
person union and say, "We want to lay

1972
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person union and say, "We want to lay
off<00:42:59.839> 18%<00:43:00.480> of<00:43:00.640> the<00:43:00.920> workforce."<00:43:01.920> Like,<00:43:02.240> at

1973
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off 18% of the workforce." Like, at

1974
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off 18% of the workforce." Like, at
least<00:43:02.640> they<00:43:02.800> had<00:43:03.040> to<00:43:03.200> talk<00:43:03.359> to<00:43:03.440> us<00:43:03.680> about<00:43:03.839> it.

1975
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least they had to talk to us about it.

1976
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least they had to talk to us about it.
Every<00:43:04.480> other<00:43:04.720> job<00:43:05.040> I've<00:43:05.359> ever<00:43:05.720> had,<00:43:06.720> that<00:43:06.960> just

1977
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Every other job I've ever had, that just

1978
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Every other job I've ever had, that just
would<00:43:07.359> have<00:43:07.520> happened.<00:43:08.319> And<00:43:08.560> the<00:43:08.800> amount<00:43:09.280> just

1979
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would have happened. And the amount just

1980
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would have happened. And the amount just
knowing<00:43:10.040> that<00:43:11.040> anyone<00:43:11.520> could<00:43:11.680> avail

1981
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knowing that anyone could avail

1982
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knowing that anyone could avail
themselves<00:43:12.640> of<00:43:12.960> at<00:43:13.040> least<00:43:13.440> that<00:43:13.760> much

1983
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themselves of at least that much

1984
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themselves of at least that much
protection<00:43:14.960> that<00:43:15.200> you<00:43:15.359> could<00:43:15.520> at<00:43:15.560> least<00:43:16.560> make

1985
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protection that you could at least make

1986
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protection that you could at least make
them<00:43:17.200> negotiate<00:43:17.920> with<00:43:18.160> you<00:43:18.880> is<00:43:19.200> such<00:43:19.440> a<00:43:20.000> value

1987
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them negotiate with you is such a value

1988
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them negotiate with you is such a value
to<00:43:20.880> this<00:43:21.200> concept<00:43:21.599> of<00:43:22.040> organizing<00:43:23.040> of

1989
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to this concept of organizing of

1990
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to this concept of organizing of
unionizing<00:43:23.839> together<00:43:24.359> that<00:43:25.359> that<00:43:26.240> you<00:43:26.400> know

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unionizing together that that you know

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unionizing together that that you know
that<00:43:26.800> I<00:43:26.960> think<00:43:27.119> that's<00:43:27.359> can<00:43:27.520> be<00:43:27.599> such<00:43:27.760> a<00:43:27.920> net

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that I think that's can be such a net

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that I think that's can be such a net
positive<00:43:29.119> you<00:43:29.280> know<00:43:29.440> even<00:43:29.599> in<00:43:29.839> a<00:43:30.079> private

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positive you know even in a private

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positive you know even in a private
situation

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situation

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situation
right

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right

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right
um<00:43:36.880> how<00:43:37.680> uh<00:43:38.240> talk<00:43:38.560> a<00:43:38.800> little<00:43:38.960> bit<00:43:39.119> about<00:43:39.520> if<00:43:39.680> if

2001
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um how uh talk a little bit about if if

2002
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um how uh talk a little bit about if if
at<00:43:40.359> all<00:43:41.359> relations<00:43:41.920> you<00:43:42.240> have<00:43:42.400> with<00:43:42.800> the

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at all relations you have with the

2004
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at all relations you have with the
general<00:43:43.520> community,<00:43:44.000> right?<00:43:44.319> It<00:43:44.560> touched

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general community, right? It touched

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general community, right? It touched
upon<00:43:45.119> it<00:43:45.560> somewhat.<00:43:46.839> Um<00:43:47.839> as<00:43:48.079> a<00:43:48.319> union,

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2008
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um<00:43:52.800> what<00:43:53.040> sort<00:43:53.200> of<00:43:53.359> engagement<00:43:53.839> do<00:43:54.000> you<00:43:54.160> have

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um what sort of engagement do you have

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um what sort of engagement do you have
with<00:43:54.400> with<00:43:54.640> with<00:43:55.200> the<00:43:55.440> community<00:43:55.839> at<00:43:56.079> large,

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with with with the community at large,

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with with with the community at large,
non-union

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non-union

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non-union
people?

2015
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people?

2016
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people?
Um<00:44:01.119> yeah,<00:44:01.440> that's<00:44:01.599> a<00:44:01.760> good<00:44:02.000> question.<00:44:02.319> I

2017
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Um yeah, that's a good question. I

2018
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Um yeah, that's a good question. I
think,<00:44:02.960> you<00:44:03.119> know,<00:44:03.280> we're<00:44:03.520> we're<00:44:04.000> running

2019
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think, you know, we're we're running

2020
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think, you know, we're we're running
mills,<00:44:05.040> we're<00:44:05.200> running<00:44:05.440> levies<00:44:05.920> right<00:44:06.160> now,

2021
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mills, we're running levies right now,

2022
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mills, we're running levies right now,
so<00:44:06.640> there's<00:44:06.960> some<00:44:07.359> engagement<00:44:07.839> that<00:44:08.160> comes

2023
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so there's some engagement that comes

2024
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so there's some engagement that comes
along<00:44:08.720> with<00:44:08.960> that.<00:44:09.920> Um,<00:44:10.560> and<00:44:10.800> Melissa<00:44:11.200> spoke

2025
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along with that. Um, and Melissa spoke

2026
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along with that. Um, and Melissa spoke
about<00:44:11.599> that<00:44:12.240> um<00:44:12.640> just<00:44:12.880> a<00:44:13.040> minute<00:44:13.200> ago.<00:44:13.839> Um,<00:44:14.480> and

2027
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about that um just a minute ago. Um, and

2028
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about that um just a minute ago. Um, and
I<00:44:14.960> think<00:44:15.200> when<00:44:15.680> when<00:44:16.079> I<00:44:16.800> of<00:44:17.040> course<00:44:17.200> we're

2029
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I think when when I of course we're

2030
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I think when when I of course we're
engaging<00:44:17.680> with<00:44:17.839> our<00:44:18.079> parents<00:44:18.319> and<00:44:18.560> our

2031
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engaging with our parents and our

2032
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engaging with our parents and our
students,<00:44:19.440> you<00:44:19.599> know,<00:44:19.760> every<00:44:20.000> day.<00:44:20.319> So,<00:44:20.640> so<00:44:20.880> in

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students, you know, every day. So, so in

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students, you know, every day. So, so in
that<00:44:21.280> way<00:44:22.079> um<00:44:22.960> there's<00:44:23.359> community

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that way um there's community

2036
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that way um there's community
engagement.<00:44:24.880> Um,<00:44:25.119> and<00:44:25.359> then<00:44:25.520> the<00:44:25.760> other<00:44:26.000> the

2037
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engagement. Um, and then the other the

2038
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engagement. Um, and then the other the
other<00:44:26.480> thing<00:44:26.560> is<00:44:27.119> um<00:44:27.760> when<00:44:28.000> we<00:44:28.160> go<00:44:28.240> to

2039
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other thing is um when we go to

2040
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other thing is um when we go to
schoolboard<00:44:28.880> meetings,<00:44:29.280> those<00:44:29.440> are<00:44:29.680> public

2041
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schoolboard meetings, those are public

2042
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schoolboard meetings, those are public
meetings.<00:44:30.400> There's<00:44:30.560> often<00:44:30.960> parents<00:44:31.280> there.

2043
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meetings. There's often parents there.

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meetings. There's often parents there.
there's<00:44:31.920> frequently<00:44:32.319> parents<00:44:32.720> there.<00:44:33.280> So,<00:44:33.680> uh

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there's frequently parents there. So, uh

2046
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there's frequently parents there. So, uh
we<00:44:34.000> would<00:44:34.160> be<00:44:34.319> engaging<00:44:34.720> in<00:44:34.880> the<00:44:35.119> with<00:44:35.359> the

2047
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we would be engaging in the with the

2048
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we would be engaging in the with the
community<00:44:35.839> in<00:44:36.079> that<00:44:36.240> way.<00:44:36.400> In<00:44:36.640> terms<00:44:36.800> of

2049
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community in that way. In terms of

2050
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community in that way. In terms of
um<00:44:38.960> you<00:44:39.200> know,<00:44:39.680> I<00:44:39.920> don't<00:44:40.000> know<00:44:40.160> that<00:44:40.400> there's

2051
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um you know, I don't know that there's

2052
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um you know, I don't know that there's
things<00:44:41.359> that<00:44:41.599> we<00:44:41.760> do<00:44:42.079> locally<00:44:42.800> that<00:44:43.599> um<00:44:44.160> beyond

2053
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things that we do locally that um beyond

2054
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things that we do locally that um beyond
our<00:44:44.800> just<00:44:44.960> day-to-day<00:44:45.520> jobs<00:44:45.839> of<00:44:46.079> kind<00:44:46.240> of

2055
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our just day-to-day jobs of kind of

2056
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our just day-to-day jobs of kind of
organizing<00:44:46.960> locally

2057
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organizing locally

2058
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organizing locally
within<00:44:49.119> our<00:44:49.520> community<00:44:50.240> where<00:44:50.640> other<00:44:50.960> than

2059
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within our community where other than

2060
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within our community where other than
our<00:44:51.359> affiliates,

2061
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our affiliates,

2062
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our affiliates,
um<00:44:54.480> I<00:44:54.640> I<00:44:55.040> would<00:44:55.359> say<00:44:55.920> exactly<00:44:56.720> you<00:44:56.880> know<00:44:56.960> what

2063
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um I I would say exactly you know what

2064
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um I I would say exactly you know what
Katie<00:44:58.000> described.<00:44:58.720> We're<00:44:58.960> a<00:44:59.200> very<00:44:59.520> public-f

2065
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Katie described. We're a very public-f

2066
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Katie described. We're a very public-f
facing

2067
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facing

2068
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facing
union.<00:45:02.640> Almost<00:45:03.119> everybody<00:45:03.520> in<00:45:03.760> Missoula<00:45:04.319> has

2069
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union. Almost everybody in Missoula has

2070
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union. Almost everybody in Missoula has
some<00:45:04.960> interaction<00:45:05.599> with<00:45:05.839> the<00:45:06.000> public

2071
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some interaction with the public

2072
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some interaction with the public
schools,<00:45:06.800> whether<00:45:07.119> you're<00:45:07.280> a<00:45:07.440> parent,

2073
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schools, whether you're a parent,

2074
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schools, whether you're a parent,
whether<00:45:08.000> you're<00:45:08.240> a<00:45:08.480> student,<00:45:08.880> a<00:45:09.119> graduate.

2075
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whether you're a student, a graduate.

2076
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whether you're a student, a graduate.
So,<00:45:10.000> we<00:45:10.240> are<00:45:10.319> a<00:45:10.560> very<00:45:10.880> public-f<00:45:11.200> facing<00:45:11.760> unit

2077
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So, we are a very public-f facing unit

2078
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So, we are a very public-f facing unit
union.<00:45:13.040> And<00:45:13.280> one<00:45:13.520> of<00:45:13.599> the<00:45:13.839> things<00:45:14.160> that<00:45:15.040> um<00:45:15.280> I

2079
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union. And one of the things that um I

2080
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union. And one of the things that um I
love<00:45:15.760> the<00:45:15.920> idea<00:45:16.160> of<00:45:16.240> a<00:45:16.480> general<00:45:16.800> strike.<00:45:17.440> I

2081
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love the idea of a general strike. I

2082
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love the idea of a general strike. I
think<00:45:17.839> that's<00:45:18.160> super<00:45:18.680> important.<00:45:19.760> But<00:45:20.400> I

2083
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think that's super important. But I

2084
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think that's super important. But I
think<00:45:20.800> it's<00:45:21.119> not<00:45:21.280> just<00:45:21.520> the<00:45:21.760> groundwork<00:45:22.720> of

2085
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think it's not just the groundwork of

2086
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think it's not just the groundwork of
getting<00:45:23.520> people<00:45:24.760> organized,<00:45:25.760> but<00:45:26.240> building

2087
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getting people organized, but building

2088
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getting people organized, but building
understanding<00:45:27.200> in<00:45:27.440> the<00:45:27.599> community<00:45:28.480> because

2089
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understanding in the community because

2090
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understanding in the community because
the<00:45:29.040> fact<00:45:29.200> of<00:45:29.359> the<00:45:29.520> matter

2091
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the fact of the matter

2092
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the fact of the matter
is<00:45:32.319> a<00:45:32.640> general<00:45:33.119> strike<00:45:33.760> is<00:45:34.079> going<00:45:34.240> to<00:45:34.480> hurt<00:45:35.160> us.

2093
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is a general strike is going to hurt us.

2094
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is a general strike is going to hurt us.
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2095
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Like if you're an oligarch, if you're

2096
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Like if you're an oligarch, if you're
one<00:45:38.480> of<00:45:38.560> the<00:45:38.800> 1%,<00:45:39.520> you're<00:45:39.920> going<00:45:40.000> to<00:45:40.720> be<00:45:40.880> able

2097
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one of the 1%, you're going to be able

2098
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one of the 1%, you're going to be able
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2099
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to insulate yourself. I mean, maybe not

2100
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to insulate yourself. I mean, maybe not
your<00:45:44.560> spreadsheet,<00:45:45.359> maybe<00:45:45.680> not<00:45:46.119> your<00:45:47.119> total

2101
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your spreadsheet, maybe not your total

2102
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your spreadsheet, maybe not your total
net<00:45:47.839> value,<00:45:48.800> but<00:45:49.680> some<00:45:50.000> of<00:45:50.160> the<00:45:50.400> difficulties

2103
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net value, but some of the difficulties

2104
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net value, but some of the difficulties
that<00:45:51.200> would<00:45:51.359> be<00:45:51.520> felt<00:45:51.839> in<00:45:52.079> our<00:45:52.319> community.

2105
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that would be felt in our community.

2106
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that would be felt in our community.
Like,<00:45:53.520> I<00:45:53.680> know<00:45:53.839> a<00:45:54.079> lot<00:45:54.160> of<00:45:54.240> teachers<00:45:55.200> that<00:45:55.520> if

2107
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Like, I know a lot of teachers that if

2108
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Like, I know a lot of teachers that if
we<00:45:57.200> were<00:45:57.440> to<00:45:57.680> attempt<00:45:58.000> a

2109
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we were to attempt a

2110
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we were to attempt a
strike<00:46:00.079> would<00:46:00.400> would<00:46:00.720> feel<00:46:00.960> that<00:46:01.119> that<00:46:01.359> was<00:46:01.520> a

2111
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strike would would feel that that was a

2112
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strike would would feel that that was a
betrayal,<00:46:02.400> that<00:46:02.640> we<00:46:02.880> were<00:46:03.480> betraying<00:46:04.480> the<00:46:04.640> the

2113
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betrayal, that we were betraying the the

2114
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betrayal, that we were betraying the the
students,<00:46:05.760> we<00:46:05.920> were<00:46:06.079> betraying<00:46:06.560> the<00:46:06.800> families

2115
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students, we were betraying the families

2116
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students, we were betraying the families
of<00:46:07.599> this<00:46:07.920> community.<00:46:08.720> So<00:46:09.119> if<00:46:09.440> we<00:46:09.680> were<00:46:09.920> going

2117
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of this community. So if we were going

2118
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of this community. So if we were going
to<00:46:10.400> put<00:46:10.560> ourselves<00:46:11.040> in<00:46:11.200> a<00:46:11.440> position<00:46:11.760> to<00:46:12.079> do

2119
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to put ourselves in a position to do

2120
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to put ourselves in a position to do
that,<00:46:12.880> that<00:46:13.200> takes<00:46:13.440> a<00:46:13.760> lot<00:46:13.839> of<00:46:14.000> groundwork,<00:46:14.720> a

2121
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that, that takes a lot of groundwork, a

2122
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that, that takes a lot of groundwork, a
lot<00:46:15.040> of<00:46:15.280> explaining<00:46:15.839> to<00:46:16.079> community<00:46:16.480> members,

2123
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lot of explaining to community members,

2124
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lot of explaining to community members,
listen,<00:46:17.520> we<00:46:17.680> don't<00:46:17.920> we<00:46:18.160> don't<00:46:18.319> want<00:46:18.400> to<00:46:18.560> do

2125
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listen, we don't we don't want to do

2126
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listen, we don't we don't want to do
this.<00:46:19.760> This<00:46:20.079> is<00:46:20.319> not<00:46:21.280> about<00:46:21.680> you<00:46:22.000> and<00:46:22.240> me.<00:46:22.960> This

2127
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this. This is not about you and me. This

2128
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this. This is not about you and me. This
is<00:46:23.200> not<00:46:23.359> about<00:46:23.599> me<00:46:23.760> and<00:46:24.000> your<00:46:24.240> kids<00:46:24.800> who<00:46:25.040> I<00:46:25.280> care

2129
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is not about me and your kids who I care

2130
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is not about me and your kids who I care
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2131
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about deeply. This is about our our

2132
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about deeply. This is about our our
society,<00:46:29.680> our<00:46:30.000> greater<00:46:30.560> community.<00:46:31.440> And<00:46:31.599> I<00:46:31.760> I

2133
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society, our greater community. And I I

2134
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society, our greater community. And I I
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2135
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think that's a lot of work um that we'd

2136
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think that's a lot of work um that we'd
have<00:46:35.119> to<00:46:35.280> do.<00:46:36.160> Yeah.<00:46:36.480> I<00:46:36.800> mean,<00:46:37.599> we<00:46:37.760> we<00:46:38.240> provide

2137
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have to do. Yeah. I mean, we we provide

2138
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have to do. Yeah. I mean, we we provide
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2139
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necessary necessary child care to to

2140
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necessary necessary child care to to
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2141
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many families um in this community. Um

2142
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many families um in this community. Um
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2143
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and even if those families were ideally

2144
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and even if those families were ideally
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2145
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on strike with us in a general strike,

2146
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on strike with us in a general strike,
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2147
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there are families who still would rely

2148
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there are families who still would rely
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2149
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on that and need that. So, um so I think

2150
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on that and need that. So, um so I think
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2151
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that that makes you know a strike when

2152
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that that makes you know a strike when
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2153
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you're a very essential worker. Not that

2154
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you're a very essential worker. Not that
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2155
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there aren't essential workers, but when

2156
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there aren't essential workers, but when
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2157
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you're in that position, it makes that

2158
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you're in that position, it makes that
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2159
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organizing, I think, even even more

2160
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organizing, I think, even even more
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2162
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Yeah.<00:47:14.000> I<00:47:14.319> you<00:47:14.480> know,<00:47:14.880> our<00:47:15.839> community

2163
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Yeah. I you know, our community

2164
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Yeah. I you know, our community
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2165
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relations are largely a matter of trying

2166
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relations are largely a matter of trying
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2167
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to push information out about what's

2168
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to push information out about what's
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2169
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going on. And you know, as I've said

2170
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going on. And you know, as I've said
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2171
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before, in a environment where most of

2172
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before, in a environment where most of
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2173
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our members don't feel at liberty to

2174
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our members don't feel at liberty to
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2175
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speak publicly at events or to

2176
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speak publicly at events or to
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2177
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newspapers or to media, um I think that

2178
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newspapers or to media, um I think that
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2179
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is a plays a really crucial role in

2180
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is a plays a really crucial role in
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2181
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making sure they don't feel alone and

2182
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making sure they don't feel alone and
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2183
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and in making sure people know what they

2184
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and in making sure people know what they
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2185
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ought to be angry about with what's

2186
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ought to be angry about with what's
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2187
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going on. So, all that to say, uh follow

2188
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going on. So, all that to say, uh follow
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2189
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us at Nifty Local 60, Instagram, uh like

2190
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us at Nifty Local 60, Instagram, uh like

2191
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2192
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and share. Yeah.

2193
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and share. Yeah.
All right.

2194
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All right.

2195
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All right.
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2196
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you want to uh it's it's different for

2197
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you want to uh it's it's different for
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2198
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us because we being in the process of

2199
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us because we being in the process of
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2200
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negotiating we're not ready to go to the

2201
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negotiating we're not ready to go to the
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2202
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community yet uh for assistance in any

2203
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community yet uh for assistance in any
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2204
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ways but it it's a strategic maneuver

2205
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ways but it it's a strategic maneuver
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2206
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right now uh you know that we hold that

2207
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right now uh you know that we hold that

2208
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2209
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as like a

2210
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as like a
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2211
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card should I put that on the radio

2212
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card should I put that on the radio
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2213
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sorry um they know it uh but yeah like

2214
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sorry um they know it uh but yeah like
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2215
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uh you know uh but small community

2216
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uh you know uh but small community
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2217
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things as well. An affiliate company

2218
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things as well. An affiliate company
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2219
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also owned by uh Hank recently voted to

2220
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also owned by uh Hank recently voted to
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2221
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unionize. They're part of National Labor

2222
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unionize. They're part of National Labor
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2223
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Union, the Creative Workers of America.

2224
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Union, the Creative Workers of America.
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2225
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Uh they just had their vote uh tallied

2226
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Uh they just had their vote uh tallied
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2227
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and uh joined that. So, you know, we've

2228
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and uh joined that. So, you know, we've
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2229
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had some uh cross talk and

2230
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had some uh cross talk and
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2231
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crosspollination of being able to advise

2232
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crosspollination of being able to advise
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2233
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each other sort of or like, you know, I

2234
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each other sort of or like, you know, I
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2235
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had people clandestinely come to me and

2236
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had people clandestinely come to me and
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2237
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ask about, you know, you know, like

2238
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ask about, you know, you know, like
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2239
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difficulties they can anticipate and

2240
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difficulties they can anticipate and
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2241
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things like that. They'll have a little

2242
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things like that. They'll have a little
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2243
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more support from their national union

2244
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more support from their national union
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2245
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when they go to bargain. But yeah,

2246
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when they go to bargain. But yeah,
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2247
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there's at this point, you know, there's

2248
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there's at this point, you know, there's
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2249
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always that kind of one-on-one thing

2250
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always that kind of one-on-one thing
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2251
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that you can be a sounding board for

2252
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that you can be a sounding board for
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2253
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other people who are interested in

2254
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other people who are interested in
organizing.

2255
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2256
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2257
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So, I'm gonna This question wasn't on

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So, I'm gonna This question wasn't on
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the list. It's kind of a variation, but

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the list. It's kind of a variation, but
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how how is it possible or what sort of

2262
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how how is it possible or what sort of
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ideas do you have to increase the

2264
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ideas do you have to increase the
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2265
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support of the public? I mean,

2266
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support of the public? I mean,
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2267
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especially for the two public unions,

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especially for the two public unions,
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right? That it's crucial. um how any

2270
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right? That it's crucial. um how any
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idea I mean you know any ideas or uh I I

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idea I mean you know any ideas or uh I I
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2273
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know I'll just give an example um that I

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know I'll just give an example um that I
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I've studied pretty closely is the uh

2276
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I've studied pretty closely is the uh
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unified teachers of Los Angeles right

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unified teachers of Los Angeles right
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and they uh uh they had uh uh a strike

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and they uh uh they had uh uh a strike
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in 2019 I think it was and they used

2282
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in 2019 I think it was and they used
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this organizing method that Stephen

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this organizing method that Stephen
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2285
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talked about they had a

2286
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talked about they had a
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2287
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99% out right for 34,000 teachers. Okay,

2288
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99% out right for 34,000 teachers. Okay,
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2289
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that's a lot of teachers and you can

2290
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that's a lot of teachers and you can
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imagine and they're all political

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imagine and they're all political
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2293
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persuasions. I mean, you know, all the

2294
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persuasions. I mean, you know, all the
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2295
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difference that 34,000 people would

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difference that 34,000 people would
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2297
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contain is contained there. And I think

2298
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contain is contained there. And I think
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2299
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one of the promises of unions is that it

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one of the promises of unions is that it
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does bind people together in in ways

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does bind people together in in ways
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that I think other organizations can't

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that I think other organizations can't
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do. But how is it? Well, what the Los

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do. But how is it? Well, what the Los
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Angeles teachers did is they as Melissa

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Angeles teachers did is they as Melissa
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said, it takes a lot of work. And they

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said, it takes a lot of work. And they
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did um they did two things. One is

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did um they did two things. One is
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Bargaining for the Common Good. I don't

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Bargaining for the Common Good. I don't
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know if you've heard of that before.

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know if you've heard of that before.
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2317
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It's actually an organization that came

2318
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It's actually an organization that came
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2319
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out of um the LA strike in 2019, which

2320
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out of um the LA strike in 2019, which
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they won in five days, by the way. Uh

2322
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they won in five days, by the way. Uh
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2323
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and they were up against billionaires

2324
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and they were up against billionaires
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2325
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who were trying to privatize the Los

2326
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who were trying to privatize the Los
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Angeles school system. Okay? and they

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Angeles school system. Okay? and they
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they beat him uh handily. Um but one of

2330
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they beat him uh handily. Um but one of
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2331
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the things that they did is they

2332
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the things that they did is they
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2333
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included in their bargaining uh things

2334
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included in their bargaining uh things
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2335
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for the community like green space uh in

2336
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for the community like green space uh in
schools<00:51:08.480> you<00:51:08.640> know<00:51:08.880> having<00:51:09.440> uh<00:51:09.599> having<00:51:09.920> nurses

2337
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schools you know having uh having nurses

2338
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schools you know having uh having nurses
in<00:51:10.640> every<00:51:10.880> school<00:51:11.839> that<00:51:12.240> is<00:51:12.480> open<00:51:12.720> to<00:51:12.880> the

2339
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in every school that is open to the

2340
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in every school that is open to the
community<00:51:13.599> not<00:51:13.839> just<00:51:14.000> to<00:51:14.319> the<00:51:14.640> students.<00:51:15.599> Um

2341
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community not just to the students. Um

2342
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community not just to the students. Um
things<00:51:16.400> like<00:51:16.640> that.<00:51:17.280> Um<00:51:18.000> and<00:51:18.240> that<00:51:18.480> that

2343
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things like that. Um and that that

2344
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things like that. Um and that that
helped<00:51:19.200> build<00:51:19.760> alliances<00:51:20.559> with<00:51:21.520> um<00:51:22.079> you<00:51:22.319> know

2345
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helped build alliances with um you know

2346
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helped build alliances with um you know
with<00:51:22.880> uh<00:51:23.200> uh<00:51:23.359> with<00:51:23.599> the<00:51:23.839> community<00:51:24.480> and<00:51:24.720> they

2347
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with uh uh with the community and they

2348
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with uh uh with the community and they
also<00:51:25.440> spent<00:51:25.760> a<00:51:26.000> lot<00:51:26.079> of<00:51:26.240> time<00:51:26.559> organizing<00:51:27.119> the

2349
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also spent a lot of time organizing the

2350
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also spent a lot of time organizing the
students<00:51:27.680> and<00:51:27.920> the<00:51:28.079> parents.<00:51:28.880> I<00:51:29.119> mean<00:51:29.280> that

2351
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students and the parents. I mean that

2352
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students and the parents. I mean that
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2353
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was they spent a lot of time doing that

2354
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was they spent a lot of time doing that
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2355
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and to the point where they uh in in

2356
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and to the point where they uh in in
their<00:51:35.760> first<00:51:36.079> day<00:51:36.319> out<00:51:36.559> on<00:51:36.800> strike<00:51:37.200> they<00:51:37.440> had

2357
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their first day out on strike they had

2358
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their first day out on strike they had
34,000<00:51:38.400> teachers<00:51:39.280> but<00:51:39.440> they<00:51:39.680> also<00:51:39.920> had

2359
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34,000 teachers but they also had

2360
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34,000 teachers but they also had
another

2361
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another

2362
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another
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2363
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20,000 students and parents and just

2364
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20,000 students and parents and just
people<00:51:45.040> in<00:51:45.280> the<00:51:45.440> community<00:51:46.240> coming<00:51:46.480> out<00:51:46.720> to

2365
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people in the community coming out to

2366
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people in the community coming out to
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2367
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support. Now, that to me that's really

2368
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support. Now, that to me that's really

2369
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2370
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inspiring. And I

2371
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inspiring. And I
think<00:51:52.640> make<00:51:52.880> no<00:51:53.119> mistake,<00:51:53.520> it

2372
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think make no mistake, it

2373
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think make no mistake, it
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2374
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takes I'll I'll say this that the Los

2375
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takes I'll I'll say this that the Los
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2376
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Angeles teachers had only

2377
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Angeles teachers had only
32<00:52:02.480> paid<00:52:02.880> organizers<00:52:03.520> on<00:52:03.960> staff,<00:52:04.960> right?<00:52:05.440> And

2378
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32 paid organizers on staff, right? And

2379
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32 paid organizers on staff, right? And
they<00:52:05.920> were<00:52:06.160> able<00:52:06.480> to<00:52:06.800> use,<00:52:07.680> you<00:52:07.839> know,<00:52:08.319> to

2380
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they were able to use, you know, to

2381
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they were able to use, you know, to
train<00:52:09.040> other<00:52:09.400> people<00:52:10.400> in,<00:52:10.960> you<00:52:11.119> know,<00:52:11.280> other

2382
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train other people in, you know, other

2383
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train other people in, you know, other
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2384
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teachers how to organize their fellow

2385
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teachers how to organize their fellow
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2386
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workers as it were. and that so it could

2387
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workers as it were. and that so it could
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2388
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scale up, right? You can't pay enough

2389
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scale up, right? You can't pay enough
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2390
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people to be organizers. Just that's

2391
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people to be organizers. Just that's
I've<00:52:22.960> been<00:52:23.119> an<00:52:23.280> organizer.<00:52:23.920> I<00:52:24.160> know<00:52:24.559> the<00:52:24.800> pay

2392
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I've been an organizer. I know the pay

2393
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I've been an organizer. I know the pay
wasn't<00:52:25.359> great<00:52:26.240> and<00:52:27.200> I<00:52:27.440> had<00:52:27.680> I<00:52:27.920> could<00:52:28.079> I<00:52:28.319> could

2394
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wasn't great and I had I could I could

2395
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wasn't great and I had I could I could
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2396
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be doing three jobs at once, you know,

2397
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be doing three jobs at once, you know,
and<00:52:30.400> still<00:52:30.559> wouldn't<00:52:30.880> be<00:52:31.040> enough.<00:52:31.520> So,<00:52:32.319> uh<00:52:32.480> so

2398
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and still wouldn't be enough. So, uh so

2399
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and still wouldn't be enough. So, uh so
the<00:52:33.040> you<00:52:33.280> know,<00:52:33.680> I'm<00:52:33.920> just<00:52:34.079> sort<00:52:34.240> of

2400
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the you know, I'm just sort of

2401
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the you know, I'm just sort of
suggesting<00:52:34.960> that<00:52:35.359> there<00:52:35.599> there<00:52:35.920> might<00:52:36.160> be

2402
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suggesting that there there might be

2403
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suggesting that there there might be
other<00:52:36.559> ways<00:52:36.960> in<00:52:37.200> which<00:52:37.760> we<00:52:38.000> could<00:52:38.240> build

2404
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other ways in which we could build

2405
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other ways in which we could build
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2406
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relations with the community that the

2407
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relations with the community that the
community<00:52:41.200> sees<00:52:41.599> that<00:52:42.400> when<00:52:42.640> the<00:52:42.880> teachers<00:52:43.200> go

2408
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community sees that when the teachers go

2409
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community sees that when the teachers go
on<00:52:43.680> strike.<00:52:44.240> Yeah,<00:52:44.720> that's<00:52:45.599> That's<00:52:45.839> me<00:52:46.160> going

2410
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on strike. Yeah, that's That's me going

2411
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on strike. Yeah, that's That's me going
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2412
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on strike. I want to support that

2413
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on strike. I want to support that
because<00:52:48.400> they're<00:52:48.720> standing<00:52:49.040> up<00:52:49.200> for<00:52:49.359> me.

2414
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2415
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Um,<00:52:54.720> yeah.<00:52:55.040> I<00:52:55.200> I<00:52:55.599> think<00:52:55.760> all<00:52:56.000> of<00:52:56.160> those<00:52:56.480> are<00:52:56.720> are

2416
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Um, yeah. I I think all of those are are

2417
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Um, yeah. I I think all of those are are
great.<00:52:58.240> I<00:52:58.480> think<00:52:58.559> it<00:52:58.880> does<00:52:59.040> have<00:52:59.200> to<00:52:59.359> be<00:52:59.440> a

2418
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great. I think it does have to be a

2419
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great. I think it does have to be a
community.<00:53:00.160> And<00:53:00.319> I<00:53:00.559> think<00:53:00.720> one<00:53:00.960> of<00:53:01.040> the<00:53:01.200> things

2420
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community. And I think one of the things

2421
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community. And I think one of the things
that<00:53:01.520> we<00:53:01.760> have<00:53:01.839> to<00:53:02.000> do,<00:53:02.160> and<00:53:02.400> maybe<00:53:02.720> Sam,<00:53:03.680> this

2422
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that we have to do, and maybe Sam, this

2423
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that we have to do, and maybe Sam, this
is<00:53:04.079> something<00:53:04.240> that<00:53:04.559> you<00:53:04.800> guys<00:53:05.119> probably<00:53:05.599> do

2424
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is something that you guys probably do

2425
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is something that you guys probably do
already,<00:53:06.559> but<00:53:06.800> I<00:53:06.960> think<00:53:07.040> we<00:53:07.280> could<00:53:07.440> all<00:53:07.760> do

2426
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already, but I think we could all do

2427
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already, but I think we could all do
more,

2428
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more,

2429
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more,
is,<00:53:09.839> you<00:53:10.000> know,<00:53:10.160> wear<00:53:10.640> our<00:53:11.119> union<00:53:11.520> membership

2430
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is, you know, wear our union membership

2431
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is, you know, wear our union membership
on<00:53:12.400> our<00:53:12.640> sleeve.<00:53:13.119> literally<00:53:14.000> let<00:53:14.480> people<00:53:15.119> know

2432
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on our sleeve. literally let people know

2433
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on our sleeve. literally let people know
in<00:53:16.400> the<00:53:16.640> community.<00:53:17.599> I<00:53:17.920> I'm<00:53:18.160> a<00:53:18.319> union<00:53:18.640> member

2434
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in the community. I I'm a union member

2435
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in the community. I I'm a union member
like<00:53:19.839> and<00:53:20.240> I<00:53:20.720> provide<00:53:21.440> a<00:53:22.040> service.<00:53:23.040> Um<00:53:23.680> part<00:53:23.920> of

2436
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like and I provide a service. Um part of

2437
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like and I provide a service. Um part of
it<00:53:24.240> is<00:53:24.480> letting<00:53:24.960> people<00:53:25.359> know<00:53:25.839> what<00:53:26.079> you<00:53:26.400> do.<00:53:27.280> A

2438
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it is letting people know what you do. A

2439
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it is letting people know what you do. A
lot<00:53:27.599> of<00:53:27.760> us<00:53:28.000> work<00:53:28.240> hard<00:53:28.559> and<00:53:28.720> and<00:53:29.119> people<00:53:29.599> don't

2440
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lot of us work hard and and people don't

2441
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lot of us work hard and and people don't
notice<00:53:30.720> until<00:53:31.359> you<00:53:31.440> know<00:53:31.599> there's<00:53:31.839> a<00:53:32.000> fire.<00:53:32.720> Oh

2442
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notice until you know there's a fire. Oh

2443
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notice until you know there's a fire. Oh
my<00:53:33.119> gosh.<00:53:33.920> Or<00:53:34.800> they<00:53:35.200> need<00:53:35.680> something<00:53:36.079> from

2444
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my gosh. Or they need something from

2445
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my gosh. Or they need something from
school.<00:53:36.880> And<00:53:37.119> so<00:53:37.280> I<00:53:37.520> think

2446
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school. And so I think

2447
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school. And so I think
wearing<00:53:39.520> you<00:53:39.680> know<00:53:39.839> our<00:53:40.079> your<00:53:40.920> identity<00:53:41.920> that

2448
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wearing you know our your identity that

2449
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wearing you know our your identity that
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2450
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says I'm a union member here's my local

2451
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says I'm a union member here's my local

2452
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2453
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and having those

2454
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and having those
interactions<00:53:48.240> just<00:53:48.480> building<00:53:48.880> awareness.

2455
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interactions just building awareness.

2456
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interactions just building awareness.
How<00:53:50.880> about<00:53:51.680> red<00:53:52.160> for<00:53:52.400> ed?<00:53:53.359> Red.<00:53:53.920> Yeah.<00:53:54.559> Years

2457
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How about red for ed? Red. Yeah. Years

2458
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How about red for ed? Red. Yeah. Years
ago.<00:53:54.960> I<00:53:55.200> remember<00:53:55.440> that<00:53:55.760> went<00:53:56.200> on.<00:53:57.200> T-shirts

2459
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ago. I remember that went on. T-shirts

2460
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ago. I remember that went on. T-shirts
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2461
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red for that sort of prep for parents

2462
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red for that sort of prep for parents
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2463
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and community. There's a teacher. You

2464
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and community. There's a teacher. You
know,<00:54:02.559> it's<00:54:02.880> going<00:54:02.960> to<00:54:03.119> be<00:54:03.400> difficult.

2465
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know, it's going to be difficult.

2466
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know, it's going to be difficult.
Parents<00:54:05.359> want<00:54:05.599> their<00:54:06.240> teachers<00:54:06.720> to<00:54:06.880> teachers

2467
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Parents want their teachers to teachers

2468
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Parents want their teachers to teachers
students<00:54:07.839> of<00:54:07.920> their<00:54:08.640> kids<00:54:08.800> and<00:54:08.960> that<00:54:09.119> sort<00:54:09.280> of

2469
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students of their kids and that sort of

2470
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students of their kids and that sort of
thing.<00:54:09.920> But<00:54:10.079> if<00:54:10.240> you<00:54:10.400> publicize<00:54:11.319> beforehand

2471
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thing. But if you publicize beforehand

2472
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thing. But if you publicize beforehand
and<00:54:12.559> work<00:54:12.800> up<00:54:13.040> to<00:54:13.200> it,<00:54:13.520> it<00:54:13.760> might<00:54:14.000> help.<00:54:14.960> And<00:54:15.200> I

2473
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and work up to it, it might help. And I

2474
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and work up to it, it might help. And I
think<00:54:15.520> it's<00:54:15.839> things<00:54:16.079> like<00:54:16.480> planning<00:54:16.800> for

2475
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think it's things like planning for

2476
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think it's things like planning for
child<00:54:17.440> care<00:54:18.240> and<00:54:18.640> helping<00:54:19.280> people<00:54:19.760> organize

2477
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child care and helping people organize

2478
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child care and helping people organize
in<00:54:20.800> the<00:54:21.040> community.<00:54:21.839> This<00:54:22.000> is<00:54:22.160> what's<00:54:22.400> going

2479
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in the community. This is what's going

2480
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in the community. This is what's going
to<00:54:22.720> happen.<00:54:23.359> How<00:54:23.599> would<00:54:23.839> you<00:54:24.079> plan<00:54:24.319> for<00:54:24.559> this?

2481
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to happen. How would you plan for this?

2482
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to happen. How would you plan for this?
Um,<00:54:27.839> you<00:54:28.079> have<00:54:28.240> to<00:54:28.400> show<00:54:28.640> people<00:54:28.960> what<00:54:29.280> you<00:54:29.559> do

2483
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Um, you have to show people what you do

2484
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Um, you have to show people what you do
and<00:54:30.960> show<00:54:31.200> people<00:54:31.720> why<00:54:32.720> they<00:54:33.040> need<00:54:33.359> more<00:54:33.920> and

2485
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and show people why they need more and

2486
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and show people why they need more and
you<00:54:34.480> need<00:54:34.640> more,<00:54:35.520> right?<00:54:35.760> And<00:54:35.920> and<00:54:36.240> like<00:54:36.400> you

2487
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you need more, right? And and like you

2488
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you need more, right? And and like you
said,<00:54:36.800> this<00:54:37.040> kind<00:54:37.200> of<00:54:37.359> common<00:54:37.920> good<00:54:38.319> idea.

2489
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said, this kind of common good idea.

2490
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said, this kind of common good idea.
Yeah.<00:54:40.640> I<00:54:41.599> I<00:54:41.920> think<00:54:42.400> you<00:54:42.559> know<00:54:43.280> to<00:54:43.599> Yeah.<00:54:43.839> On<00:54:44.000> top

2491
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Yeah. I I think you know to Yeah. On top

2492
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Yeah. I I think you know to Yeah. On top
of<00:54:44.240> what<00:54:44.400> you<00:54:44.559> said,<00:54:44.720> we<00:54:44.880> need<00:54:44.960> to<00:54:45.280> not<00:54:45.520> just<00:54:45.760> as

2493
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of what you said, we need to not just as

2494
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of what you said, we need to not just as
union<00:54:46.319> members,<00:54:46.720> but<00:54:46.960> as<00:54:47.359> public<00:54:47.760> employees

2495
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union members, but as public employees

2496
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union members, but as public employees
or<00:54:48.559> employees<00:54:48.960> of<00:54:49.680> whatever,<00:54:50.160> you<00:54:50.319> know,

2497
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or employees of whatever, you know,

2498
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or employees of whatever, you know,
value<00:54:50.880> providing<00:54:51.440> company<00:54:51.760> you're<00:54:52.079> working

2499
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value providing company you're working

2500
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value providing company you're working
for,<00:54:53.119> we<00:54:53.599> need<00:54:53.760> to<00:54:53.920> show<00:54:54.079> up<00:54:54.160> and<00:54:54.400> we<00:54:54.559> need<00:54:54.640> to

2501
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for, we need to show up and we need to

2502
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for, we need to show up and we need to
talk<00:54:54.960> loudly<00:54:55.280> and<00:54:55.440> publicly<00:54:55.839> about<00:54:56.000> the

2503
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talk loudly and publicly about the

2504
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talk loudly and publicly about the
services<00:54:56.640> we<00:54:56.960> provide<00:54:57.520> for<00:54:57.760> the<00:54:57.920> people<00:54:58.079> that

2505
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services we provide for the people that

2506
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services we provide for the people that
we're<00:54:58.400> serving.<00:54:59.040> Um,<00:54:59.359> I<00:54:59.680> think<00:55:00.000> frankly<00:55:00.319> as<00:55:00.559> an

2507
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we're serving. Um, I think frankly as an

2508
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we're serving. Um, I think frankly as an
agency<00:55:01.119> or<00:55:01.359> a<00:55:01.520> lot<00:55:01.680> a<00:55:01.839> lot<00:55:01.920> of<00:55:02.000> our<00:55:02.240> federal

2509
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agency or a lot a lot of our federal

2510
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agency or a lot a lot of our federal
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2511
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agencies could do better, a lot better

2512
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agencies could do better, a lot better
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2513
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at that. We are very riskaverse and very

2514
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at that. We are very riskaverse and very
cautious<00:55:07.680> about<00:55:07.920> talking<00:55:08.160> about<00:55:08.319> the<00:55:08.559> work

2515
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cautious about talking about the work

2516
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cautious about talking about the work
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2517
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that we're doing unless it's been vetted

2518
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that we're doing unless it's been vetted
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2519
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by six or seven levels. Um, and that it

2520
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by six or seven levels. Um, and that it
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2521
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doesn't need to be like that. And it

2522
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doesn't need to be like that. And it
doesn't<00:55:14.720> need<00:55:14.800> to<00:55:14.960> be<00:55:15.040> like<00:55:15.200> that<00:55:15.359> if<00:55:15.599> you<00:55:15.760> are

2523
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doesn't need to be like that if you are

2524
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doesn't need to be like that if you are
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2525
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off duty and you're going to a community

2526
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off duty and you're going to a community
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2527
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meeting or a town hall to talk about the

2528
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meeting or a town hall to talk about the
amazing<00:55:20.720> project<00:55:21.040> you've<00:55:21.280> been<00:55:21.440> doing<00:55:21.599> for

2529
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amazing project you've been doing for

2530
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amazing project you've been doing for
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2531
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water water away restoration down in the

2532
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water water away restoration down in the
Bitterroot<00:55:25.040> or<00:55:25.359> about<00:55:26.000> um,<00:55:26.400> you<00:55:26.640> know,<00:55:26.880> how

2533
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Bitterroot or about um, you know, how

2534
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Bitterroot or about um, you know, how
many<00:55:27.280> fires<00:55:27.520> we<00:55:27.760> were<00:55:27.839> able<00:55:28.000> to<00:55:28.160> catch<00:55:28.640> last

2535
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many fires we were able to catch last

2536
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many fires we were able to catch last
year<00:55:29.119> that<00:55:29.359> didn't<00:55:29.599> become<00:55:29.839> mega<00:55:30.240> fires.<00:55:31.200> um

2537
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year that didn't become mega fires. um

2538
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year that didn't become mega fires. um
at<00:55:32.079> the<00:55:32.640> union<00:55:32.960> level,<00:55:33.520> something<00:55:33.760> that<00:55:34.480> I've

2539
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at the union level, something that I've

2540
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at the union level, something that I've
been<00:55:34.880> saying<00:55:35.040> a<00:55:35.200> lot<00:55:35.280> to<00:55:35.520> my<00:55:35.680> co-workers

2541
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been saying a lot to my co-workers

2542
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been saying a lot to my co-workers
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2543
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because I work in wild and fire and a

2544
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because I work in wild and fire and a
lot<00:55:38.480> of<00:55:38.559> folks<00:55:39.280> just<00:55:39.599> two<00:55:39.760> or<00:55:39.920> three<00:55:40.079> months

2545
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lot of folks just two or three months

2546
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lot of folks just two or three months
ago<00:55:40.960> were<00:55:41.200> kept<00:55:41.520> saying,<00:55:41.760> well,<00:55:42.000> you<00:55:42.079> know,

2547
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ago were kept saying, well, you know,

2548
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ago were kept saying, well, you know,
they're<00:55:42.480> not<00:55:42.720> coming<00:55:43.040> after<00:55:43.599> primary

2549
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they're not coming after primary

2550
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they're not coming after primary
firefighters<00:55:44.800> right<00:55:45.040> now.<00:55:45.359> You<00:55:45.440> know,<00:55:45.599> like

2551
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firefighters right now. You know, like

2552
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firefighters right now. You know, like
they<00:55:46.079> I<00:55:46.400> don't<00:55:46.559> want<00:55:46.640> to<00:55:47.280> make<00:55:47.440> this<00:55:47.760> about<00:55:48.000> us.

2553
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they I don't want to make this about us.

2554
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they I don't want to make this about us.
Um<00:55:48.720> I<00:55:48.960> think<00:55:49.040> a<00:55:49.200> lot<00:55:49.280> of<00:55:49.359> people<00:55:49.520> have<00:55:49.680> realized

2555
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Um I think a lot of people have realized

2556
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Um I think a lot of people have realized
that<00:55:50.160> that's<00:55:50.400> no<00:55:50.559> longer<00:55:50.799> the<00:55:50.960> case<00:55:51.119> in<00:55:51.280> a<00:55:51.359> very

2557
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that that's no longer the case in a very

2558
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that that's no longer the case in a very
literal<00:55:51.920> sense,<00:55:52.559> but<00:55:53.200> I<00:55:53.520> can't<00:55:53.680> keep<00:55:53.839> telling

2559
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literal sense, but I can't keep telling

2560
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literal sense, but I can't keep telling
folks<00:55:54.319> when<00:55:54.480> they<00:55:54.559> come<00:55:54.720> after<00:55:54.960> one<00:55:55.119> of<00:55:55.200> us,

2561
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folks when they come after one of us,

2562
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folks when they come after one of us,
they're<00:55:55.599> coming<00:55:55.839> after<00:55:56.079> all<00:55:56.240> of<00:55:56.319> us.<00:55:56.559> And

2563
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they're coming after all of us. And

2564
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they're coming after all of us. And
that's<00:55:56.880> not<00:55:57.040> just<00:55:57.200> a<00:55:57.359> matter<00:55:57.520> of<00:55:57.680> solidarity.

2565
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2566
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Yeah,<00:56:02.079> it's<00:56:02.400> not<00:56:02.559> just<00:56:02.799> a<00:56:02.960> matter<00:56:03.119> of

2567
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Yeah, it's not just a matter of

2568
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Yeah, it's not just a matter of
solidarity.<00:56:03.839> It's<00:56:03.920> a<00:56:04.079> matter<00:56:04.240> of

2569
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solidarity. It's a matter of

2570
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solidarity. It's a matter of
practicality.<00:56:05.280> Because<00:56:05.839> when<00:56:06.079> they<00:56:06.319> come

2571
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practicality. Because when they come

2572
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practicality. Because when they come
after<00:56:06.720> the<00:56:06.880> folks<00:56:07.119> who<00:56:07.280> keep<00:56:07.440> your<00:56:07.680> trails

2573
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after the folks who keep your trails

2574
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after the folks who keep your trails
clear,<00:56:08.480> they're<00:56:08.720> coming<00:56:08.880> after<00:56:09.119> all<00:56:09.359> of<00:56:09.440> our

2575
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:09,599
clear, they're coming after all of our

2576
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:11,910
clear, they're coming after all of our
ability<00:56:09.839> to<00:56:10.000> go<00:56:10.160> out<00:56:10.319> and<00:56:10.480> go<00:56:10.640> hiking<00:56:11.280> and,<00:56:11.760> you

2577
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:11,920
ability to go out and go hiking and, you

2578
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ability to go out and go hiking and, you
know,<00:56:12.079> show<00:56:12.319> our<00:56:12.480> kids<00:56:12.720> the<00:56:12.880> beauty<00:56:13.040> of<00:56:13.200> the

2579
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know, show our kids the beauty of the

2580
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know, show our kids the beauty of the
national<00:56:13.599> forest.<00:56:13.920> And<00:56:14.000> when<00:56:14.079> they<00:56:14.319> come

2581
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:14,400
national forest. And when they come

2582
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,030
national forest. And when they come
after,<00:56:15.280> you<00:56:15.440> know,<00:56:15.599> teacher<00:56:16.000> pay<00:56:16.319> and,<00:56:16.880> you

2583
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:17,040
after, you know, teacher pay and, you

2584
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,190
after, you know, teacher pay and, you
know,<00:56:17.280> cut,<00:56:17.680> you<00:56:17.839> know,<00:56:18.079> only<00:56:18.400> provide<00:56:18.960> pay

2585
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know, cut, you know, only provide pay

2586
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,109
know, cut, you know, only provide pay
increases<00:56:19.680> for<00:56:20.000> incoming<00:56:20.480> teachers,<00:56:20.880> not

2587
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:21,119
increases for incoming teachers, not

2588
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,510
increases for incoming teachers, not
people<00:56:21.280> who<00:56:21.920> dedicated<00:56:22.720> decades<00:56:23.119> of<00:56:23.359> their

2589
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:23,520
people who dedicated decades of their

2590
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,670
people who dedicated decades of their
lives<00:56:24.000> working<00:56:24.319> hard<00:56:24.640> for<00:56:25.200> too<00:56:25.440> little

2591
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:25,680
lives working hard for too little

2592
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,510
lives working hard for too little
compensation.<00:56:26.640> They're<00:56:26.880> coming<00:56:27.040> after<00:56:27.359> all

2593
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:27,520
compensation. They're coming after all

2594
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,270
compensation. They're coming after all
of<00:56:27.599> us<00:56:27.760> who<00:56:28.000> have<00:56:28.160> kids<00:56:28.400> or<00:56:28.640> might<00:56:28.880> someday

2595
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of us who have kids or might someday

2596
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,430
of us who have kids or might someday
have<00:56:29.520> kids<00:56:30.079> going<00:56:30.319> to<00:56:30.559> public<00:56:30.799> schools<00:56:31.119> in

2597
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:31,440
have kids going to public schools in

2598
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have kids going to public schools in
Montana.<00:56:32.000> So,<00:56:32.720> um<00:56:32.799> I<00:56:33.040> think<00:56:33.119> that's<00:56:33.359> something

2599
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Montana. So, um I think that's something

2600
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,910
Montana. So, um I think that's something
we<00:56:33.839> need<00:56:34.000> to<00:56:34.160> keep<00:56:34.640> repeating<00:56:35.119> to<00:56:35.359> each<00:56:35.599> other

2601
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we need to keep repeating to each other

2602
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,109
we need to keep repeating to each other
both<00:56:36.160> at<00:56:36.400> our<00:56:36.559> workplace<00:56:37.440> and<00:56:37.680> in<00:56:37.920> our

2603
00:56:38,109 --> 00:56:38,119
both at our workplace and in our

2604
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both at our workplace and in our
communities.<00:56:39.119> And<00:56:39.760> uh<00:56:39.920> I<00:56:40.160> think<00:56:40.240> it's<00:56:40.480> a

2605
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communities. And uh I think it's a

2606
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communities. And uh I think it's a
circle<00:56:40.960> that<00:56:41.119> we<00:56:41.280> need<00:56:41.440> to<00:56:41.599> just<00:56:42.400> expand<00:56:42.880> as

2607
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circle that we need to just expand as

2608
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,710
circle that we need to just expand as
wide<00:56:43.440> as<00:56:43.680> possible<00:56:44.000> because<00:56:44.240> it's<00:56:44.400> not<00:56:44.559> just

2609
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wide as possible because it's not just

2610
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,230
wide as possible because it's not just
about<00:56:45.119> when<00:56:45.359> they're<00:56:45.520> coming<00:56:45.680> after<00:56:46.000> public

2611
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:46,240
about when they're coming after public

2612
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:48,230
about when they're coming after public
servants.<00:56:46.960> It's<00:56:47.200> about<00:56:47.440> when<00:56:47.680> they're<00:56:48.000> coming

2613
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:48,240
servants. It's about when they're coming

2614
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,390
servants. It's about when they're coming
after,<00:56:49.119> you<00:56:49.280> know,<00:56:49.359> the<00:56:49.520> guy<00:56:49.680> who's<00:56:49.920> lost<00:56:50.160> his

2615
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:50,400
after, you know, the guy who's lost his

2616
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,870
after, you know, the guy who's lost his
job<00:56:50.559> at<00:56:50.720> a<00:56:50.880> mill<00:56:51.440> up<00:56:51.599> in<00:56:51.760> Cely<00:56:52.240> because<00:56:52.559> we

2617
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:52,880
job at a mill up in Cely because we

2618
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,589
job at a mill up in Cely because we
haven't<00:56:53.119> created<00:56:53.440> a<00:56:53.599> system<00:56:54.240> where<00:56:55.119> his<00:56:55.359> job

2619
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:55,599
haven't created a system where his job

2620
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:56,950
haven't created a system where his job
is<00:56:55.760> viable<00:56:56.000> and<00:56:56.160> where<00:56:56.319> he<00:56:56.480> can<00:56:56.559> feed<00:56:56.799> his

2621
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:56,960
is viable and where he can feed his

2622
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,829
is viable and where he can feed his
family<00:56:57.200> as<00:56:57.440> well.<00:56:58.000> Yeah.<00:56:58.480> Great.<00:56:59.040> I<00:56:59.200> I<00:56:59.599> love

2623
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family as well. Yeah. Great. I I love

2624
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:02,470
family as well. Yeah. Great. I I love
that<00:57:00.240> using<00:57:00.799> solidarity<00:57:01.440> and<00:57:01.760> practicality

2625
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:02,480
that using solidarity and practicality

2626
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,750
that using solidarity and practicality
in<00:57:02.640> the<00:57:02.880> same<00:57:03.400> sentence.<00:57:04.400> That<00:57:04.640> that<00:57:04.960> is<00:57:05.520> I'm

2627
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in the same sentence. That that is I'm

2628
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,710
in the same sentence. That that is I'm
going<00:57:05.839> to<00:57:06.000> I'm<00:57:06.160> going<00:57:06.240> to<00:57:06.400> steal<00:57:06.640> that.

2629
00:57:07,710 --> 00:57:07,720
going to I'm going to steal that.

2630
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:11,670
going to I'm going to steal that.
Um<00:57:08.960> um<00:57:09.359> my<00:57:09.680> last<00:57:09.920> question<00:57:10.480> and<00:57:10.960> a<00:57:11.200> a<00:57:11.440> lot<00:57:11.520> of

2631
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Um um my last question and a a lot of

2632
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Um um my last question and a a lot of
people<00:57:12.480> I<00:57:12.640> mean<00:57:12.880> as<00:57:13.280> we've<00:57:13.680> kind<00:57:13.839> of<00:57:13.920> touched

2633
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people I mean as we've kind of touched

2634
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people I mean as we've kind of touched
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2635
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upon a lot of people have no idea how

2636
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upon a lot of people have no idea how
unions<00:57:18.240> work<00:57:18.640> right<00:57:18.960> or<00:57:19.119> or<00:57:19.440> have<00:57:19.680> very<00:57:19.920> little

2637
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unions work right or or have very little

2638
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unions work right or or have very little
sense<00:57:20.960> about<00:57:21.359> well<00:57:21.599> what's<00:57:21.839> a<00:57:22.000> union<00:57:22.480> right

2639
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sense about well what's a union right

2640
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sense about well what's a union right
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2641
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and um maybe each of you can explain

2642
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and um maybe each of you can explain
just

2643
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just

2644
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just
real<00:57:28.960> basically<00:57:29.920> how<00:57:30.160> is<00:57:30.319> it<00:57:31.040> you<00:57:31.359> become<00:57:31.599> a

2645
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real basically how is it you become a

2646
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:35,030
real basically how is it you become a
member<00:57:32.000> of<00:57:32.319> your<00:57:32.920> union<00:57:33.920> how<00:57:34.160> is<00:57:34.319> it<00:57:34.720> that

2647
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member of your union how is it that

2648
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member of your union how is it that
you're<00:57:35.359> involved<00:57:35.760> in<00:57:36.079> making<00:57:36.400> decisions<00:57:36.880> for

2649
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you're involved in making decisions for

2650
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you're involved in making decisions for
the<00:57:37.280> union.<00:57:37.599> How<00:57:37.680> does<00:57:37.839> it<00:57:38.000> work<00:57:38.160> internally?

2651
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the union. How does it work internally?

2652
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the union. How does it work internally?
If<00:57:38.960> you<00:57:39.040> could<00:57:39.200> speak<00:57:39.359> a<00:57:39.520> little<00:57:39.599> bit<00:57:39.760> about

2653
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If you could speak a little bit about

2654
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If you could speak a little bit about
that.

2655
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that.

2656
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that.
Sure.<00:57:42.079> At<00:57:42.240> at<00:57:42.400> our<00:57:42.640> level<00:57:42.880> at<00:57:42.960> least,<00:57:43.599> uh<00:57:43.760> it<00:57:44.000> is

2657
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Sure. At at our level at least, uh it is

2658
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Sure. At at our level at least, uh it is
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2659
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largely volunteer based for the entire

2660
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largely volunteer based for the entire
forest<00:57:46.799> service.<00:57:47.200> We<00:57:47.359> have<00:57:47.599> 16<00:57:48.319> paid<00:57:48.720> staff

2661
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forest service. We have 16 paid staff

2662
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forest service. We have 16 paid staff
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2663
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across the country with, you know, 20 to

2664
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across the country with, you know, 20 to
30,000<00:57:53.280> uh<00:57:53.520> union<00:57:53.839> eligible<00:57:54.240> members.<00:57:55.040> So,

2665
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30,000 uh union eligible members. So,

2666
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30,000 uh union eligible members. So,
most<00:57:55.599> of<00:57:55.760> our<00:57:56.000> work<00:57:56.160> as<00:57:56.559> local<00:57:57.280> executives<00:57:57.920> is

2667
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most of our work as local executives is

2668
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most of our work as local executives is
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2669
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it's volunteer work where we're willing

2670
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it's volunteer work where we're willing
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2671
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to do something on top of whatever our

2672
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to do something on top of whatever our
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2673
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our day job is. And I don't think just

2674
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our day job is. And I don't think just
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2675
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at our local level when I go to our

2676
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at our local level when I go to our
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2677
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meetings of our national union where

2678
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meetings of our national union where
frankly<00:58:09.839> I've<00:58:10.000> got<00:58:10.160> plenty<00:58:10.319> of

2679
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frankly I've got plenty of

2680
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frankly I've got plenty of
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2681
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dissatisfaction with, you know, the

2682
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dissatisfaction with, you know, the
quality<00:58:13.280> of<00:58:13.520> work<00:58:13.760> sometimes<00:58:14.079> or<00:58:14.319> the<00:58:14.480> speed

2683
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quality of work sometimes or the speed

2684
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quality of work sometimes or the speed
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2685
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at which the things that we find

2686
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at which the things that we find
important<00:58:16.240> are<00:58:16.559> are<00:58:16.880> coming<00:58:17.119> out.<00:58:17.520> It's<00:58:17.760> just

2687
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important are are coming out. It's just

2688
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important are are coming out. It's just
who<00:58:18.160> volunteers<00:58:18.640> and<00:58:18.880> who's<00:58:19.119> willing<00:58:19.359> to<00:58:19.520> step

2689
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who volunteers and who's willing to step

2690
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who volunteers and who's willing to step
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2691
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up and and do the work and dedicate the

2692
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up and and do the work and dedicate the
time.<00:58:22.680> Um<00:58:23.680> yeah,<00:58:24.160> so<00:58:24.640> it's<00:58:24.880> it's<00:58:25.200> as<00:58:25.440> simple

2693
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time. Um yeah, so it's it's as simple

2694
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time. Um yeah, so it's it's as simple
for<00:58:25.839> us<00:58:26.000> as<00:58:26.319> attending<00:58:26.720> one<00:58:26.960> of<00:58:27.040> our<00:58:27.200> monthly

2695
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for us as attending one of our monthly

2696
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for us as attending one of our monthly
meetings<00:58:27.920> the<00:58:28.400> first<00:58:28.799> second<00:58:29.119> Wednesday<00:58:29.440> of

2697
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meetings the first second Wednesday of

2698
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meetings the first second Wednesday of
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2699
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every month and uh responding to the

2700
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every month and uh responding to the
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2701
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monthly call that we give to say you

2702
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monthly call that we give to say you
know<00:58:34.319> if<00:58:34.480> you're<00:58:34.640> interested<00:58:34.799> in<00:58:34.960> being<00:58:35.119> an

2703
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know if you're interested in being an

2704
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know if you're interested in being an
executive<00:58:35.680> and<00:58:35.920> getting<00:58:36.079> trained<00:58:36.319> to<00:58:36.480> become

2705
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executive and getting trained to become

2706
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executive and getting trained to become
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2707
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a union steward which is a really

2708
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a union steward which is a really
amazing<00:58:38.960> training<00:58:39.280> that<00:58:39.520> I<00:58:39.760> am<00:58:40.720> IW<00:58:41.440> puts<00:58:41.680> on

2709
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amazing training that I am IW puts on

2710
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amazing training that I am IW puts on
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2711
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every year. um let us know and and every

2712
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every year. um let us know and and every
person<00:58:45.200> who<00:58:45.440> does<00:58:45.599> that<00:58:45.839> you<00:58:45.920> know<00:58:46.079> like<00:58:46.319> Bobby

2713
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person who does that you know like Bobby

2714
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person who does that you know like Bobby
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2715
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in the audience here typically you know

2716
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in the audience here typically you know
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2717
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typically finds that to be a very

2718
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typically finds that to be a very
enriching<00:58:51.119> experience<00:58:51.440> and<00:58:51.839> helpful<00:58:52.160> to<00:58:52.319> all

2719
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enriching experience and helpful to all

2720
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enriching experience and helpful to all
of<00:58:52.559> us.

2721
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2722
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I'll<00:58:57.599> I'll<00:58:58.000> talk<00:58:58.240> a<00:58:58.480> little<00:58:58.559> bit<00:58:58.720> about<00:58:58.960> our

2723
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I'll I'll talk a little bit about our

2724
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I'll I'll talk a little bit about our
sort<00:58:59.680> of<00:58:59.920> local<00:59:00.319> level.<00:59:00.880> So<00:59:01.119> yeah,<00:59:01.359> you<00:59:01.599> become

2725
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sort of local level. So yeah, you become

2726
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sort of local level. So yeah, you become
um<00:59:02.480> a<00:59:02.799> union<00:59:03.680> uh<00:59:03.920> member.<00:59:04.880> Um<00:59:05.760> when<00:59:06.079> I<00:59:06.319> became<00:59:06.559> a

2727
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um a union uh member. Um when I became a

2728
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um a union uh member. Um when I became a
union<00:59:07.040> member,<00:59:07.839> uh<00:59:08.000> we<00:59:08.319> were<00:59:08.480> able<00:59:08.799> to<00:59:09.359> and<00:59:09.599> we

2729
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union member, uh we were able to and we

2730
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union member, uh we were able to and we
still<00:59:10.000> are<00:59:10.319> sort<00:59:10.480> of<00:59:10.640> we<00:59:10.880> were<00:59:10.960> able<00:59:11.119> to<00:59:11.280> duct

2731
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still are sort of we were able to duct

2732
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still are sort of we were able to duct
our<00:59:12.240> union<00:59:12.559> dues<00:59:13.119> um<00:59:13.280> directly<00:59:13.599> from<00:59:13.839> our

2733
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our union dues um directly from our

2734
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our union dues um directly from our
paycheck.<00:59:14.799> Um<00:59:15.200> there's<00:59:15.520> been<00:59:15.680> lots<00:59:15.920> of

2735
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paycheck. Um there's been lots of

2736
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paycheck. Um there's been lots of
legislation<00:59:16.720> to<00:59:17.119> get<00:59:17.280> rid<00:59:17.440> of<00:59:17.599> that<00:59:17.839> and<00:59:18.079> to

2737
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legislation to get rid of that and to

2738
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legislation to get rid of that and to
make<00:59:18.400> that<00:59:18.720> not<00:59:19.280> uh<00:59:19.359> to<00:59:19.520> make<00:59:19.680> that<00:59:19.920> illegal.

2739
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make that not uh to make that illegal.

2740
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make that not uh to make that illegal.
Um<00:59:20.799> and<00:59:21.040> so<00:59:21.200> we've<00:59:21.599> transitioned<00:59:22.000> to<00:59:22.160> a

2741
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Um and so we've transitioned to a

2742
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Um and so we've transitioned to a
different<00:59:22.559> dues<00:59:22.880> paying<00:59:23.200> system<00:59:24.160> um<00:59:24.400> mostly,

2743
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different dues paying system um mostly,

2744
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different dues paying system um mostly,
but<00:59:25.280> yeah,<00:59:25.520> you<00:59:25.760> just<00:59:25.920> you<00:59:26.160> sign<00:59:26.400> your<00:59:26.480> form

2745
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but yeah, you just you sign your form

2746
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but yeah, you just you sign your form
and<00:59:27.040> off<00:59:27.280> you<00:59:27.520> go.<00:59:28.000> Um<00:59:28.400> our<00:59:29.040> union<00:59:29.520> has<00:59:29.760> a

2747
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and off you go. Um our union has a

2748
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and off you go. Um our union has a
representative<00:59:30.720> system.<00:59:31.119> So<00:59:31.520> yeah,<00:59:32.000> for

2749
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representative system. So yeah, for

2750
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representative system. So yeah, for
every<00:59:33.440> 15<00:59:34.400> union<00:59:34.799> members<00:59:35.200> in<00:59:35.440> a<00:59:35.680> building,

2751
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every 15 union members in a building,

2752
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every 15 union members in a building,
there<00:59:36.240> is<00:59:36.480> one<00:59:36.880> elected<00:59:37.520> representative<00:59:38.160> who

2753
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there is one elected representative who

2754
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there is one elected representative who
serves<00:59:38.720> on<00:59:38.880> the<00:59:39.040> board<00:59:39.280> of<00:59:39.440> directors.<00:59:40.400> Um,

2755
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serves on the board of directors. Um,

2756
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serves on the board of directors. Um,
and<00:59:41.200> again,<00:59:41.520> it's<00:59:41.680> it's<00:59:42.000> also<00:59:42.319> all<00:59:42.559> volunteer.

2757
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and again, it's it's also all volunteer.

2758
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and again, it's it's also all volunteer.
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2759
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You a lot of times, unfortunately, it's

2760
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You a lot of times, unfortunately, it's
like<00:59:46.400> begging<00:59:46.880> people<00:59:47.200> to<00:59:47.440> to<00:59:47.839> be<00:59:48.000> a<00:59:48.240> building

2761
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:48,559
like begging people to to be a building

2762
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,190
like begging people to to be a building
rep<00:59:49.280> um<00:59:49.359> and<00:59:49.520> and<00:59:49.839> to<00:59:50.079> represent<00:59:50.559> those<00:59:50.799> 15

2763
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:51,200
rep um and and to represent those 15

2764
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,670
rep um and and to represent those 15
members<00:59:51.520> within<00:59:51.839> that<00:59:52.000> building.<00:59:52.720> Um,<00:59:53.280> and<00:59:53.440> so

2765
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:53,680
members within that building. Um, and so

2766
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,829
members within that building. Um, and so
Melissa<00:59:54.000> and<00:59:54.160> I<00:59:54.319> have<00:59:54.480> both<00:59:54.720> been<00:59:55.280> uh<00:59:55.520> building

2767
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:55,839
Melissa and I have both been uh building

2768
00:59:55,839 --> 00:59:59,349
Melissa and I have both been uh building
reps<00:59:56.319> at<00:59:56.720> at<00:59:56.799> at<00:59:57.040> different<00:59:57.280> times.<00:59:58.119> Um,<00:59:59.119> and

2769
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:59,359
reps at at at different times. Um, and

2770
00:59:59,359 --> 01:00:01,750
reps at at at different times. Um, and
then<00:59:59.599> within<01:00:00.000> the<01:00:00.319> BOD<01:00:00.960> there's<01:00:01.200> there's<01:00:01.520> an

2771
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then within the BOD there's there's an

2772
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then within the BOD there's there's an
elected<01:00:02.240> executive<01:00:02.799> board.<01:00:03.119> We<01:00:03.280> have<01:00:03.359> a

2773
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:03,520
elected executive board. We have a

2774
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,270
elected executive board. We have a
president,<01:00:04.079> uh,<01:00:04.240> two<01:00:04.400> vice<01:00:04.720> presidents,<01:00:05.119> a

2775
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:05,280
president, uh, two vice presidents, a

2776
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,589
president, uh, two vice presidents, a
secretary,<01:00:05.599> a<01:00:05.760> treasurer,<01:00:06.480> and,<01:00:06.960> uh,<01:00:07.119> reps<01:00:07.440> at

2777
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:07,599
secretary, a treasurer, and, uh, reps at

2778
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:11,390
secretary, a treasurer, and, uh, reps at
large.<01:00:08.400> Um,<01:00:08.960> and<01:00:09.200> then<01:00:09.680> and<01:00:09.920> then<01:00:10.079> we<01:00:10.319> can

2779
01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:11,400
large. Um, and then and then we can

2780
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,150
large. Um, and then and then we can
also,<01:00:12.400> and<01:00:12.799> I<01:00:13.040> apologize<01:00:13.599> because<01:00:13.839> I<01:00:14.000> don't

2781
01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:14,160
also, and I apologize because I don't

2782
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,910
also, and I apologize because I don't
know<01:00:14.319> every<01:00:14.640> single<01:00:14.880> nuance<01:00:15.200> here<01:00:15.440> because<01:00:15.680> of

2783
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:15,920
know every single nuance here because of

2784
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,630
know every single nuance here because of
of<01:00:16.319> how<01:00:16.480> big<01:00:16.720> our<01:00:16.960> union<01:00:17.280> is,<01:00:17.520> but<01:00:17.839> there<01:00:18.079> are

2785
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:18,640
of how big our union is, but there are

2786
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,190
of how big our union is, but there are
um,<01:00:18.720> elected<01:00:19.200> positions<01:00:19.920> um<01:00:20.079> through<01:00:20.319> MFP<01:00:21.040> and

2787
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:21,200
um, elected positions um through MFP and

2788
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,750
um, elected positions um through MFP and
then<01:00:21.440> we<01:00:21.680> also<01:00:21.920> send<01:00:22.720> uh,<01:00:22.880> one<01:00:23.200> representative

2789
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:23,760
then we also send uh, one representative

2790
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,910
then we also send uh, one representative
to<01:00:23.920> the<01:00:24.000> NEA<01:00:24.799> every<01:00:25.119> year<01:00:25.280> at<01:00:25.520> our<01:00:25.680> state

2791
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:25,920
to the NEA every year at our state

2792
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,829
to the NEA every year at our state
level.<01:00:26.480> And<01:00:26.960> um<01:00:27.119> and<01:00:27.359> yeah,<01:00:27.680> we<01:00:28.160> we

2793
01:00:28,829 --> 01:00:28,839
level. And um and yeah, we we

2794
01:00:28,839 --> 01:00:32,150
level. And um and yeah, we we
we<01:00:29.839> have<01:00:30.079> meetings.<01:00:30.640> That's<01:00:30.880> how<01:00:31.040> we<01:00:31.599> how<01:00:31.920> we

2795
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:32,160
we have meetings. That's how we how we

2796
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,670
we have meetings. That's how we how we
talk<01:00:32.400> to<01:00:32.720> our<01:00:32.960> our<01:00:33.720> employers.<01:00:34.720> Um<01:00:35.119> and<01:00:35.359> that's

2797
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:35,680
talk to our our employers. Um and that's

2798
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,150
talk to our our employers. Um and that's
how<01:00:35.839> we<01:00:36.559> we<01:00:36.880> advocate<01:00:37.280> for<01:00:37.520> ourselves<01:00:37.760> and<01:00:38.000> for

2799
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:38,160
how we we advocate for ourselves and for

2800
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,069
how we we advocate for ourselves and for
our<01:00:38.319> students<01:00:38.640> is<01:00:38.799> is<01:00:39.119> we<01:00:39.359> have<01:00:39.440> a<01:00:39.680> we<01:00:39.839> have<01:00:39.920> a

2801
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:40,079
our students is is we have a we have a

2802
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our students is is we have a we have a

2803
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2804
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lot of meetings.

2805
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lot of meetings.
Um<01:00:42.720> if<01:00:42.960> you're<01:00:43.200> I<01:00:43.440> think<01:00:43.520> if<01:00:43.839> you<01:00:44.000> know<01:00:44.240> this<01:00:44.480> if

2806
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:44,640
Um if you're I think if you know this if

2807
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,069
Um if you're I think if you know this if
you've<01:00:44.880> worked<01:00:45.040> in<01:00:45.200> a<01:00:45.359> union<01:00:45.599> that<01:00:45.920> you're

2808
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:46,079
you've worked in a union that you're

2809
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,710
you've worked in a union that you're
having<01:00:46.319> meetings,<01:00:46.799> you're<01:00:46.960> in<01:00:47.200> dialogue.<01:00:48.160> Um

2810
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:48,720
having meetings, you're in dialogue. Um

2811
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,630
having meetings, you're in dialogue. Um
and<01:00:48.880> and<01:00:49.280> you<01:00:49.440> just<01:00:49.760> do<01:00:49.920> the<01:00:50.160> best<01:00:50.240> that<01:00:50.480> you

2812
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:50,640
and and you just do the best that you

2813
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,030
and and you just do the best that you
can.

2814
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:53,040
can.

2815
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,109
can.
Do<01:00:53.119> you<01:00:53.200> want<01:00:53.280> to<01:00:53.440> add?<01:00:53.760> Oh,<01:00:54.000> I<01:00:54.160> do<01:00:54.319> want<01:00:54.480> to<01:00:54.640> add

2816
01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:55,119
Do you want to add? Oh, I do want to add

2817
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:58,549
Do you want to add? Oh, I do want to add
and<01:00:55.680> I<01:00:55.920> know<01:00:56.079> you<01:00:56.240> do.<01:00:56.799> I<01:00:57.040> know.<01:00:57.440> Well,<01:00:58.000> because

2818
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:58,559
and I know you do. I know. Well, because

2819
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:00,390
and I know you do. I know. Well, because
honestly,<01:00:59.040> I'm<01:00:59.280> so<01:00:59.520> glad<01:00:59.680> to<01:00:59.839> be<01:01:00.000> here<01:01:00.160> today

2820
01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:00,400
honestly, I'm so glad to be here today

2821
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,270
honestly, I'm so glad to be here today
because<01:01:01.200> at<01:01:01.440> the<01:01:01.680> end<01:01:01.839> of<01:01:01.920> the<01:01:02.160> day<01:01:02.559> today,<01:01:03.040> I

2822
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:03,280
because at the end of the day today, I

2823
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:10,630
because at the end of the day today, I
was<01:01:03.440> like,<01:01:03.760> "Oh,<01:01:04.559> I'm<01:01:05.280> not<01:01:05.599> happy."<01:01:06.559> Um

2824
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2825
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um<01:01:10.960> because<01:01:11.280> the<01:01:11.520> fact<01:01:11.680> of<01:01:11.760> the<01:01:11.839> matter<01:01:12.000> is

2826
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:12,319
um because the fact of the matter is

2827
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:15,190
um because the fact of the matter is
it's<01:01:12.640> hard.<01:01:13.200> Yeah.<01:01:13.760> When<01:01:14.000> you<01:01:14.319> are<01:01:14.480> a<01:01:14.720> union

2828
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:15,200
it's hard. Yeah. When you are a union

2829
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,870
it's hard. Yeah. When you are a union
rep,<01:01:15.920> you<01:01:16.319> cannot<01:01:17.280> walk<01:01:17.520> down<01:01:17.760> the<01:01:18.000> hall

2830
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:18,880
rep, you cannot walk down the hall

2831
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,829
rep, you cannot walk down the hall
without<01:01:19.359> someone<01:01:20.119> saying,<01:01:21.119> "I<01:01:21.440> need<01:01:21.520> to<01:01:21.680> ask

2832
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:21,839
without someone saying, "I need to ask

2833
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:23,510
without someone saying, "I need to ask
you<01:01:22.000> about<01:01:22.160> this<01:01:22.400> or<01:01:22.720> I<01:01:22.960> need<01:01:23.040> to<01:01:23.200> tell<01:01:23.359> you

2834
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:23,520
you about this or I need to tell you

2835
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,510
you about this or I need to tell you
about<01:01:23.680> this."<01:01:24.000> And<01:01:24.680> while<01:01:25.680> today<01:01:26.240> I<01:01:26.640> I<01:01:26.960> wasn't

2836
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:27,520
about this." And while today I I wasn't

2837
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,349
about this." And while today I I wasn't
my<01:01:27.839> best<01:01:28.160> self<01:01:28.480> and<01:01:28.720> I<01:01:28.880> wasn't<01:01:29.119> thinking,

2838
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:29,359
my best self and I wasn't thinking,

2839
01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:31,190
my best self and I wasn't thinking,
"Wow,<01:01:29.599> I'm<01:01:29.760> so<01:01:29.920> glad<01:01:30.160> I'm<01:01:30.400> doing<01:01:30.559> this."<01:01:30.880> I<01:01:31.040> was

2840
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:31,200
"Wow, I'm so glad I'm doing this." I was

2841
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,670
"Wow, I'm so glad I'm doing this." I was
thinking,<01:01:31.440> gosh,<01:01:31.760> I<01:01:31.920> have<01:01:32.000> a<01:01:32.160> lot<01:01:32.240> to<01:01:32.400> get

2842
01:01:32,670 --> 01:01:32,680
thinking, gosh, I have a lot to get

2843
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,750
thinking, gosh, I have a lot to get
done.<01:01:33.680> Um,<01:01:34.079> but<01:01:34.319> it<01:01:34.559> is<01:01:34.799> like<01:01:34.960> being<01:01:35.280> here<01:01:35.440> and

2844
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:35,760
done. Um, but it is like being here and

2845
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,589
done. Um, but it is like being here and
thinking<01:01:36.000> about<01:01:36.160> it.<01:01:36.480> Yeah,<01:01:36.880> it's<01:01:37.119> it's

2846
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:37,599
thinking about it. Yeah, it's it's

2847
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:41,430
thinking about it. Yeah, it's it's
wonderful<01:01:38.079> that<01:01:38.599> people<01:01:39.599> in<01:01:40.079> our<01:01:40.440> building

2848
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:41,440
wonderful that people in our building

2849
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,190
wonderful that people in our building
know<01:01:41.680> that<01:01:41.920> they<01:01:42.160> have<01:01:42.240> a<01:01:42.480> person<01:01:42.720> that<01:01:43.040> they

2850
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:43,200
know that they have a person that they

2851
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,430
know that they have a person that they
can<01:01:43.359> come<01:01:43.520> to<01:01:43.920> and<01:01:44.240> sometimes<01:01:44.880> the<01:01:45.200> question

2852
01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:45,440
can come to and sometimes the question

2853
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,589
can come to and sometimes the question
they<01:01:45.760> ask<01:01:46.000> you<01:01:46.160> is<01:01:46.400> a<01:01:46.559> union<01:01:46.960> question<01:01:47.280> and

2854
01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:47,599
they ask you is a union question and

2855
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:51,710
they ask you is a union question and
sometimes<01:01:48.240> it's<01:01:48.599> not.<01:01:49.599> But<01:01:50.240> we

2856
01:01:51,710 --> 01:01:51,720
sometimes it's not. But we

2857
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,829
sometimes it's not. But we
are<01:01:52.720> people<01:01:53.040> know<01:01:53.200> that<01:01:53.359> they<01:01:53.520> have<01:01:53.680> someone

2858
01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:53,839
are people know that they have someone

2859
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:56,750
are people know that they have someone
to<01:01:54.079> come<01:01:54.160> to<01:01:54.880> and<01:01:55.119> I<01:01:55.280> think<01:01:55.440> that's<01:01:55.680> a<01:01:55.920> really

2860
01:01:56,750 --> 01:01:56,760
to come to and I think that's a really

2861
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,030
to come to and I think that's a really
valuable<01:01:57.760> thing.<01:01:58.160> It's<01:01:58.400> an<01:01:58.559> exhausting

2862
01:01:59,030 --> 01:01:59,040
valuable thing. It's an exhausting

2863
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,190
valuable thing. It's an exhausting
thing,<01:01:59.280> but<01:01:59.520> it<01:01:59.680> is<01:01:59.839> a<01:02:00.000> very<01:02:00.240> valuable<01:02:00.720> thing.

2864
01:02:01,190 --> 01:02:01,200
thing, but it is a very valuable thing.

2865
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,870
thing, but it is a very valuable thing.
And<01:02:01.359> then<01:02:01.520> it's<01:02:01.680> for<01:02:01.920> us<01:02:02.079> to<01:02:02.240> kind<01:02:02.400> of<01:02:02.559> sort

2866
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:02,880
And then it's for us to kind of sort

2867
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,670
And then it's for us to kind of sort
back<01:02:03.119> to<01:02:03.280> them<01:02:03.440> to<01:02:03.680> say,

2868
01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:04,680
back to them to say,

2869
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,829
back to them to say,
"Ah,<01:02:05.680> that<01:02:06.000> is<01:02:06.160> a<01:02:06.319> union<01:02:06.640> issue.<01:02:07.200> I'll<01:02:07.520> take<01:02:07.680> it

2870
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:07,839
"Ah, that is a union issue. I'll take it

2871
01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:09,750
"Ah, that is a union issue. I'll take it
to<01:02:08.000> the<01:02:08.160> next<01:02:08.400> level."<01:02:08.880> Or,<01:02:09.040> "That's<01:02:09.440> not<01:02:09.599> a

2872
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:09,760
to the next level." Or, "That's not a

2873
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,950
to the next level." Or, "That's not a
union<01:02:10.079> issue.<01:02:10.720> Hey,<01:02:11.200> can<01:02:11.440> I<01:02:11.680> direct<01:02:12.000> you<01:02:12.640> this

2874
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:12,960
union issue. Hey, can I direct you this

2875
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,870
union issue. Hey, can I direct you this
way?<01:02:13.440> Could<01:02:13.599> we<01:02:13.839> approach<01:02:14.079> it<01:02:14.240> in<01:02:14.480> a<01:02:14.640> different

2876
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:14,880
way? Could we approach it in a different

2877
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,829
way? Could we approach it in a different
way?"<01:02:15.520> But<01:02:15.680> it's<01:02:17.160> um<01:02:18.160> it's<01:02:18.400> a<01:02:18.640> lot<01:02:18.799> of<01:02:19.520> Yeah.

2878
01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:19,839
way?" But it's um it's a lot of Yeah.

2879
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:22,630
way?" But it's um it's a lot of Yeah.
Yeah.<01:02:20.079> I<01:02:20.240> had<01:02:20.400> a<01:02:20.799> sharing.<01:02:21.599> Yeah.<01:02:21.839> I<01:02:22.079> had<01:02:22.240> to<01:02:22.400> I

2880
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:22,640
Yeah. I had a sharing. Yeah. I had to I

2881
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,470
Yeah. I had a sharing. Yeah. I had to I
I<01:02:22.960> mean,<01:02:23.040> you're<01:02:23.359> teaching<01:02:23.680> your<01:02:23.920> classes,

2882
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I mean, you're teaching your classes,

2883
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,190
I mean, you're teaching your classes,
someone<01:02:25.440> pops<01:02:25.760> their<01:02:26.000> head<01:02:26.160> in<01:02:26.400> your<01:02:26.640> door<01:02:27.040> and

2884
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:27,200
someone pops their head in your door and

2885
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,630
someone pops their head in your door and
they're<01:02:27.440> like,<01:02:27.520> "Hey,<01:02:27.839> I<01:02:28.000> need<01:02:28.160> to<01:02:28.319> talk<01:02:28.480> to

2886
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:28,640
they're like, "Hey, I need to talk to

2887
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,270
they're like, "Hey, I need to talk to
you<01:02:28.799> for<01:02:29.040> one<01:02:29.359> minute<01:02:29.680> and<01:02:30.480> you<01:02:30.720> have<01:02:30.880> to<01:02:31.040> set

2888
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:31,280
you for one minute and you have to set

2889
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,109
you for one minute and you have to set
things<01:02:31.760> aside."<01:02:32.240> That<01:02:32.480> happened<01:02:32.720> today.<01:02:32.960> I

2890
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:33,119
things aside." That happened today. I

2891
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:35,990
things aside." That happened today. I
had<01:02:33.280> a<01:02:33.440> I<01:02:33.680> had<01:02:34.079> a<01:02:34.400> question<01:02:34.640> about<01:02:35.520> someone<01:02:35.839> was

2892
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:36,000
had a I had a question about someone was

2893
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,829
had a I had a question about someone was
nominated<01:02:36.400> to<01:02:36.559> be<01:02:36.640> a<01:02:36.799> union<01:02:37.280> building<01:02:37.520> rep<01:02:37.760> and

2894
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:37,839
nominated to be a union building rep and

2895
01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:38,870
nominated to be a union building rep and
they<01:02:38.000> wanted<01:02:38.160> to<01:02:38.240> know<01:02:38.400> about<01:02:38.480> that<01:02:38.640> and

2896
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:38,880
they wanted to know about that and

2897
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,150
they wanted to know about that and
someone<01:02:39.119> wanted<01:02:39.359> to<01:02:39.440> know<01:02:39.599> about<01:02:39.760> how<01:02:40.000> they

2898
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:40,160
someone wanted to know about how they

2899
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,230
someone wanted to know about how they
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2900
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:42,240
advance on the salary matrix and you're

2901
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,910
advance on the salary matrix and you're
their<01:02:42.480> go-to<01:02:42.880> person.<01:02:43.200> They're<01:02:43.520> going<01:02:43.599> to<01:02:43.680> ask

2902
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:43,920
their go-to person. They're going to ask

2903
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,549
their go-to person. They're going to ask
you<01:02:44.799> uh<01:02:44.960> in<01:02:45.119> the<01:02:45.280> middle<01:02:45.440> of<01:02:45.520> your<01:02:45.760> class

2904
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:46,559
you uh in the middle of your class

2905
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:49,750
you uh in the middle of your class
sometime.

2906
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:49,760


2907
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The<01:02:50.000> kids<01:02:50.240> were<01:02:50.480> happy<01:02:50.799> about

2908
01:02:52,030 --> 01:02:52,040
The kids were happy about

2909
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,420
The kids were happy about
that.<01:02:53.040> Yeah,<01:02:53.839> as<01:02:54.000> a

2910
01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:55,430
that. Yeah, as a

2911
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:57,750
that. Yeah, as a
[Laughter]

2912
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[Laughter]

2913
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[Laughter]
as<01:02:58.000> an<01:02:58.160> independent<01:02:58.640> union,<01:02:59.280> it's<01:02:59.760> a<01:03:00.079> lot<01:03:00.319> of

2914
01:03:00,710 --> 01:03:00,720
as an independent union, it's a lot of

2915
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,190
as an independent union, it's a lot of
work.<01:03:01.280> Uh<01:03:01.839> it<01:03:02.240> we're<01:03:02.480> a<01:03:02.720> democratic

2916
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:03,200
work. Uh it we're a democratic

2917
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,750
work. Uh it we're a democratic
organization.<01:03:04.160> So<01:03:04.559> we<01:03:04.799> try<01:03:05.040> to<01:03:05.200> decide<01:03:05.520> most

2918
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:05,760
organization. So we try to decide most

2919
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,309
organization. So we try to decide most
of<01:03:05.839> our<01:03:06.079> major<01:03:06.400> functions<01:03:07.680> uh<01:03:07.920> through

2920
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:08,319
of our major functions uh through

2921
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:10,270
of our major functions uh through
consensus<01:03:08.880> vote,<01:03:09.200> through<01:03:09.440> majority,<01:03:10.000> simple

2922
01:03:10,270 --> 01:03:10,280
consensus vote, through majority, simple

2923
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,829
consensus vote, through majority, simple
majority.<01:03:11.280> Uh<01:03:11.520> we<01:03:12.400> formed<01:03:12.880> we<01:03:13.119> wrote<01:03:13.280> our<01:03:13.520> own

2924
01:03:13,829 --> 01:03:13,839
majority. Uh we formed we wrote our own

2925
01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:16,870
majority. Uh we formed we wrote our own
constitution.<01:03:14.799> That<01:03:15.200> took<01:03:15.680> a<01:03:16.240> significant

2926
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:16,880
constitution. That took a significant

2927
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,829
constitution. That took a significant
amount<01:03:17.200> of<01:03:17.520> time<01:03:17.920> and<01:03:18.319> effort.<01:03:19.200> But<01:03:19.359> we<01:03:19.599> tried

2928
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:19,839
amount of time and effort. But we tried

2929
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,549
amount of time and effort. But we tried
to<01:03:20.079> build<01:03:20.559> as<01:03:21.280> non-<01:03:21.599> hierarchical<01:03:22.319> an

2930
01:03:22,549 --> 01:03:22,559
to build as non- hierarchical an

2931
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:25,190
to build as non- hierarchical an
organization<01:03:23.119> as<01:03:23.359> we<01:03:23.520> could<01:03:23.760> because<01:03:24.000> we<01:03:24.319> are

2932
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:25,200
organization as we could because we are

2933
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,670
organization as we could because we are
only<01:03:25.760> currently<01:03:26.319> representing<01:03:26.880> about<01:03:27.359> 30

2934
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:27,680
only currently representing about 30

2935
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,549
only currently representing about 30
some<01:03:27.920> people<01:03:28.240> 40ome<01:03:28.880> people<01:03:29.039> at<01:03:29.280> the<01:03:29.440> start<01:03:30.079> of

2936
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:30,559
some people 40ome people at the start of

2937
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:33,589
some people 40ome people at the start of
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2938
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:33,599
when we formed. Uh so we have two

2939
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:36,150
when we formed. Uh so we have two
co-chairs<01:03:34.720> uh<01:03:34.880> secretary<01:03:35.280> and<01:03:35.440> treasurer<01:03:35.920> but

2940
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:36,160
co-chairs uh secretary and treasurer but

2941
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,349
co-chairs uh secretary and treasurer but
those<01:03:36.400> are<01:03:36.720> just<01:03:36.960> more<01:03:37.280> for<01:03:37.520> administrative

2942
01:03:38,349 --> 01:03:38,359
those are just more for administrative

2943
01:03:38,359 --> 01:03:41,829
those are just more for administrative
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2944
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:41,839
function and we try to do as much as we

2945
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function and we try to do as much as we
can<01:03:42.720> online<01:03:43.440> through<01:03:43.760> Slack.<01:03:44.640> Uh<01:03:44.960> a<01:03:45.119> lot<01:03:45.280> of

2946
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:45,760
can online through Slack. Uh a lot of

2947
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,950
can online through Slack. Uh a lot of
you<01:03:45.920> know<01:03:46.319> emoji<01:03:47.000> voting<01:03:48.000> honestly<01:03:48.640> for

2948
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:48,960
you know emoji voting honestly for

2949
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,309
you know emoji voting honestly for
things<01:03:49.119> that<01:03:49.359> come<01:03:49.520> up.<01:03:50.079> Uh<01:03:50.640> we<01:03:51.599> do<01:03:51.920> and<01:03:52.160> it's

2950
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:52,319
things that come up. Uh we do and it's

2951
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:53,670
things that come up. Uh we do and it's
easier<01:03:52.640> to<01:03:52.799> talk<01:03:52.960> to<01:03:53.119> each<01:03:53.280> other<01:03:53.440> because

2952
01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:53,680
easier to talk to each other because

2953
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,349
easier to talk to each other because
we're<01:03:53.920> a<01:03:54.160> smaller<01:03:54.680> workforce.<01:03:55.760> Um<01:03:56.319> but<01:03:56.799> it<01:03:57.119> is

2954
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:57,359
we're a smaller workforce. Um but it is

2955
01:03:57,359 --> 01:03:59,109
we're a smaller workforce. Um but it is
an<01:03:57.599> intense<01:03:57.920> amount<01:03:58.079> of<01:03:58.319> work<01:03:58.559> and<01:03:58.880> you<01:03:58.960> know

2956
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:59,119
an intense amount of work and you know

2957
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:01,270
an intense amount of work and you know
you<01:03:59.280> encounter<01:03:59.680> the<01:03:59.839> difficulties<01:04:00.319> of<01:04:00.880> in<01:04:01.119> a

2958
01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:01,280
you encounter the difficulties of in a

2959
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,109
you encounter the difficulties of in a
small<01:04:01.520> organization<01:04:02.079> of<01:04:02.319> people<01:04:02.480> who<01:04:02.880> don't

2960
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:03,119
small organization of people who don't

2961
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,510
small organization of people who don't
wish<01:04:03.359> to<01:04:03.599> be<01:04:03.760> involved<01:04:04.240> as<01:04:04.640> much<01:04:04.960> and<01:04:05.200> that's

2962
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:05,520
wish to be involved as much and that's

2963
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,309
wish to be involved as much and that's
perfectly<01:04:06.000> fair.<01:04:06.799> Uh<01:04:07.200> and<01:04:07.520> but<01:04:07.839> we<01:04:08.079> always

2964
01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:08,319
perfectly fair. Uh and but we always

2965
01:04:08,319 --> 01:04:10,870
perfectly fair. Uh and but we always
want<01:04:08.480> to<01:04:08.559> avoid<01:04:08.880> the<01:04:09.039> pitfalls<01:04:09.520> of<01:04:09.880> people

2966
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:10,880
want to avoid the pitfalls of people

2967
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,029
want to avoid the pitfalls of people
filling<01:04:11.280> too<01:04:11.440> many<01:04:11.680> voids<01:04:12.079> and<01:04:12.400> forming<01:04:12.799> an

2968
01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:13,039
filling too many voids and forming an

2969
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,510
filling too many voids and forming an
accidental<01:04:13.599> hierarchical<01:04:15.039> uh<01:04:15.119> type<01:04:15.359> of

2970
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:15,520
accidental hierarchical uh type of

2971
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,109
accidental hierarchical uh type of
situation<01:04:15.839> that<01:04:16.079> you<01:04:16.319> don't<01:04:16.480> want<01:04:16.640> to<01:04:16.720> have<01:04:16.960> of

2972
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:17,119
situation that you don't want to have of

2973
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:20,069
situation that you don't want to have of
siloing<01:04:18.000> influence<01:04:18.559> or<01:04:18.880> power<01:04:19.760> in<01:04:19.839> any<01:04:20.000> type

2974
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:20,079
siloing influence or power in any type

2975
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:22,470
siloing influence or power in any type
of<01:04:20.160> a<01:04:20.400> situation<01:04:21.520> uh<01:04:21.599> like<01:04:21.760> that.<01:04:22.000> and<01:04:22.319> then

2976
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:22,480
of a situation uh like that. and then

2977
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,549
of a situation uh like that. and then
just<01:04:22.720> asking<01:04:23.039> too<01:04:23.200> much<01:04:23.359> of<01:04:23.520> people,<01:04:24.240> working

2978
01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:24,559
just asking too much of people, working

2979
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:28,829
just asking too much of people, working
them<01:04:24.799> too<01:04:25.039> hard.<01:04:25.359> That<01:04:25.680> said,<01:04:26.079> it<01:04:26.400> is<01:04:27.000> fun<01:04:28.000> to

2980
01:04:28,829 --> 01:04:28,839
them too hard. That said, it is fun to

2981
01:04:28,839 --> 01:04:31,990
them too hard. That said, it is fun to
do.<01:04:29.839> It's<01:04:30.240> cool.<01:04:30.880> It's<01:04:31.039> a<01:04:31.280> lot<01:04:31.359> of<01:04:31.520> work,<01:04:31.760> but

2982
01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:32,000
do. It's cool. It's a lot of work, but

2983
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,150
do. It's cool. It's a lot of work, but
it's<01:04:32.160> good.<01:04:32.400> And<01:04:32.640> like<01:04:33.119> like<01:04:33.359> to<01:04:33.599> the<01:04:33.760> earlier

2984
01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:34,160
it's good. And like like to the earlier

2985
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,710
it's good. And like like to the earlier
question<01:04:34.400> about<01:04:34.720> what<01:04:34.960> can<01:04:35.119> you<01:04:35.280> do<01:04:35.440> is<01:04:36.319> yeah,

2986
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:36,720
question about what can you do is yeah,

2987
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,230
question about what can you do is yeah,
evangelize<01:04:37.799> like<01:04:38.799> you<01:04:39.119> we<01:04:39.359> started<01:04:39.599> a<01:04:39.839> union.

2988
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:40,240
evangelize like you we started a union.

2989
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,750
evangelize like you we started a union.
We're<01:04:40.559> we're<01:04:40.799> a<01:04:40.960> warehouse<01:04:41.280> that<01:04:41.440> packs

2990
01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:41,760
We're we're a warehouse that packs

2991
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,390
We're we're a warehouse that packs
t-shirts<01:04:42.079> and<01:04:42.240> rolls<01:04:42.640> posters<01:04:43.599> like<01:04:44.079> you<01:04:44.240> know

2992
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:44,400
t-shirts and rolls posters like you know

2993
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,870
t-shirts and rolls posters like you know
we<01:04:44.640> we<01:04:44.880> got<01:04:45.280> 30<01:04:45.520> people<01:04:45.760> and<01:04:46.079> we<01:04:46.400> you<01:04:46.559> know<01:04:46.720> have

2994
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:46,880
we we got 30 people and we you know have

2995
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,150
we we got 30 people and we you know have
other<01:04:47.039> administrative<01:04:47.599> functions<01:04:47.920> and

2996
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:48,160
other administrative functions and

2997
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,710
other administrative functions and
design<01:04:48.640> crew<01:04:48.880> and<01:04:49.200> art<01:04:49.440> directors<01:04:49.920> and<01:04:50.559> you

2998
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:50,720
design crew and art directors and you

2999
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,109
design crew and art directors and you
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3000
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:53,119
know we we start union you could have

3001
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:55,829
know we we start union you could have
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3002
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:55,839
one at your workplace I you know and you

3003
01:04:55,839 --> 01:04:57,190
one at your workplace I you know and you
will<01:04:56.000> encounter<01:04:56.319> the<01:04:56.559> resistance<01:04:56.960> I

3004
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:57,200
will encounter the resistance I

3005
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,589
will encounter the resistance I
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3006
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:59,599
encountered of an employee older than I

3007
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:03,349
encountered of an employee older than I
am<01:04:59.760> who's<01:05:00.039> like<01:05:01.039> this<01:05:01.280> job<01:05:01.520> isn't<01:05:01.839> so<01:05:02.200> bad<01:05:03.200> and

3008
01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:03,359
am who's like this job isn't so bad and

3009
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:05,670
am who's like this job isn't so bad and
you're<01:05:03.599> like<01:05:04.000> yeah<01:05:04.400> there's<01:05:04.720> a<01:05:04.880> generation

3010
01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:05,680
you're like yeah there's a generation

3011
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,990
you're like yeah there's a generation
you<01:05:05.839> know<01:05:06.079> you<01:05:06.319> with<01:05:06.559> that<01:05:07.200> the<01:05:07.440> Protestant

3012
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:08,000
you know you with that the Protestant

3013
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,069
you know you with that the Protestant
work<01:05:08.160> ethic<01:05:08.640> of<01:05:08.880> the<01:05:09.039> idea<01:05:09.280> of<01:05:09.599> like,<01:05:09.839> well,

3014
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:10,079
work ethic of the idea of like, well,

3015
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:11,430
work ethic of the idea of like, well,
this<01:05:10.240> job's<01:05:10.480> not<01:05:10.640> so<01:05:10.799> bad.<01:05:10.960> What<01:05:11.119> do<01:05:11.200> you<01:05:11.359> need

3016
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:11,440
this job's not so bad. What do you need

3017
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,589
this job's not so bad. What do you need
a<01:05:11.599> union<01:05:11.920> for?<01:05:12.240> And<01:05:12.400> it's<01:05:12.559> like,<01:05:12.799> that<01:05:13.039> is<01:05:13.280> not

3018
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:13,599
a union for? And it's like, that is not

3019
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:16,150
a union for? And it's like, that is not
the<01:05:13.839> point.<01:05:14.400> A<01:05:14.640> union<01:05:14.960> is<01:05:15.200> not<01:05:15.359> an<01:05:15.599> emergency

3020
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:16,160
the point. A union is not an emergency

3021
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,230
the point. A union is not an emergency
pull<01:05:16.480> trigger.<01:05:16.880> An<01:05:17.039> emer,<01:05:17.520> you<01:05:17.599> know,<01:05:17.680> a<01:05:17.839> union

3022
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:18,240
pull trigger. An emer, you know, a union

3023
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,910
pull trigger. An emer, you know, a union
is<01:05:18.480> this<01:05:19.319> foundational<01:05:20.319> type<01:05:20.640> of<01:05:20.880> idea.<01:05:21.520> And<01:05:21.760> I

3024
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:21,920
is this foundational type of idea. And I

3025
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,829
is this foundational type of idea. And I
think<01:05:22.559> I've<01:05:22.880> been<01:05:23.039> seeing<01:05:23.280> that<01:05:23.440> more<01:05:23.680> and

3026
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:23,839
think I've been seeing that more and

3027
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,549
think I've been seeing that more and
more<01:05:24.079> like<01:05:24.319> we<01:05:24.640> have<01:05:25.520> much<01:05:25.839> younger<01:05:26.160> people

3028
01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:26,559
more like we have much younger people

3029
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,750
more like we have much younger people
and<01:05:26.880> the<01:05:27.839> zoomers<01:05:28.640> and,<01:05:29.039> you<01:05:29.119> know,<01:05:29.280> I<01:05:29.359> I<01:05:29.599> hate

3030
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:29,760
and the zoomers and, you know, I I hate

3031
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,430
and the zoomers and, you know, I I hate
to<01:05:29.920> do<01:05:30.079> generational<01:05:30.640> stuff,<01:05:30.799> but<01:05:31.119> like

3032
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:31,440
to do generational stuff, but like

3033
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,990
to do generational stuff, but like
younger<01:05:32.000> employees<01:05:32.480> are<01:05:33.200> much<01:05:33.599> more

3034
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:34,000
younger employees are much more

3035
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,870
younger employees are much more
receptive<01:05:34.480> to<01:05:34.720> the<01:05:34.880> idea<01:05:35.119> of<01:05:35.480> unions<01:05:36.480> than

3036
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:36,880
receptive to the idea of unions than

3037
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,789
receptive to the idea of unions than
like<01:05:37.200> people<01:05:37.440> my<01:05:37.760> age<01:05:38.079> and<01:05:38.319> a<01:05:38.480> little<01:05:38.640> bit

3038
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:38,799
like people my age and a little bit

3039
01:05:38,799 --> 01:05:40,950
like people my age and a little bit
older.<01:05:39.200> And<01:05:39.280> we<01:05:39.520> encountered<01:05:40.160> no<01:05:40.480> resistance

3040
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:40,960
older. And we encountered no resistance

3041
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,349
older. And we encountered no resistance
at<01:05:41.200> all.<01:05:41.520> When<01:05:41.760> we<01:05:41.920> had<01:05:42.079> our<01:05:42.319> card<01:05:42.559> signing,<01:05:43.119> we

3042
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:43,359
at all. When we had our card signing, we

3043
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:44,710
at all. When we had our card signing, we
did<01:05:43.440> our<01:05:43.680> little<01:05:43.920> presentation<01:05:44.480> to

3044
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:44,720
did our little presentation to

3045
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,109
did our little presentation to
everybody.<01:05:45.359> Everybody<01:05:45.920> signed.<01:05:46.799> I'm<01:05:46.960> a

3046
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:47,119
everybody. Everybody signed. I'm a

3047
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:50,870
everybody. Everybody signed. I'm a
boomer.<01:05:47.520> I<01:05:48.079> All<01:05:48.160> right.<01:05:49.119> I'm<01:05:49.480> sorry.<01:05:50.480> As<01:05:50.720> a

3048
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:50,880
boomer. I All right. I'm sorry. As a

3049
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,390
boomer. I All right. I'm sorry. As a
boomer,<01:05:51.280> you<01:05:51.520> have<01:05:51.680> to<01:05:51.839> object<01:05:52.160> to

3050
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:52,400
boomer, you have to object to

3051
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,029
boomer, you have to object to
everything,

3052
01:05:54,029 --> 01:05:54,039
everything,

3053
01:05:54,039 --> 01:05:57,309
everything,
right?<01:05:55.039> Sorry.

3054
01:05:57,309 --> 01:05:57,319
right? Sorry.

3055
01:05:57,319 --> 01:06:00,230
right? Sorry.
So,<01:05:58.319> so<01:05:58.640> we<01:05:58.880> we're<01:05:59.119> going<01:05:59.200> to<01:05:59.520> take<01:05:59.839> questions

3056
01:06:00,230 --> 01:06:00,240
So, so we we're going to take questions

3057
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,470
So, so we we're going to take questions
from<01:06:00.480> the<01:06:00.720> audience.<01:06:01.359> And<01:06:01.599> there's<01:06:02.079> food

3058
01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:02,480
from the audience. And there's food

3059
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,109
from the audience. And there's food
here.<01:06:03.280> You<01:06:03.440> know,<01:06:03.599> don't<01:06:03.839> forget<01:06:04.079> the<01:06:04.319> food.

3060
01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:05,119
here. You know, don't forget the food.

3061
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:07,430
here. You know, don't forget the food.

3062
01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:05,599


3063
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:07,440
Keith is is

3064
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:17,670
Keith is is
Yeah,<01:06:07.839> absolutely.<01:06:09.280> Um,<01:06:09.920> so

3065
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:17,680


3066
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uh<01:06:17.839> yeah,<01:06:18.240> because<01:06:18.559> people<01:06:18.799> need<01:06:18.960> to<01:06:19.119> hear

3067
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:19,280
uh yeah, because people need to hear

3068
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,270
uh yeah, because people need to hear
you.<01:06:20.079> All<01:06:20.160> righty.<01:06:20.480> Can<01:06:20.640> everybody<01:06:20.880> hear<01:06:21.039> me?

3069
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:21,280
you. All righty. Can everybody hear me?

3070
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,910
you. All righty. Can everybody hear me?
All right.<01:06:21.760> Yeah.<01:06:22.400> Okay.<01:06:23.280> Just<01:06:23.520> wanted

3071
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:23,920
All right. Yeah. Okay. Just wanted

3072
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,829
All right. Yeah. Okay. Just wanted
everybody<01:06:24.240> to<01:06:24.400> know<01:06:24.799> this<01:06:24.960> is<01:06:25.119> my<01:06:25.359> first<01:06:25.599> time

3073
01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:25,839
everybody to know this is my first time

3074
01:06:25,839 --> 01:06:28,950
everybody to know this is my first time
to<01:06:26.000> this<01:06:26.359> meeting<01:06:27.359> and<01:06:28.079> uh<01:06:28.240> also<01:06:28.559> wanted<01:06:28.799> to

3075
01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:28,960
to this meeting and uh also wanted to

3076
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,710
to this meeting and uh also wanted to
let<01:06:29.039> you<01:06:29.200> know<01:06:29.280> that<01:06:29.520> I<01:06:29.680> am<01:06:30.079> specifying<01:06:30.720> here<01:06:31.200> a

3077
01:06:31,710 --> 01:06:31,720
let you know that I am specifying here a

3078
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,510
let you know that I am specifying here a

3079
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,280


3080
01:06:36,510 --> 01:06:36,520


3081
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,109
Okay,<01:06:37.520> I<01:06:37.680> don't<01:06:37.839> hear<01:06:38.079> a<01:06:38.240> lot<01:06:38.319> of<01:06:38.640> knives<01:06:38.960> or

3082
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:39,119
Okay, I don't hear a lot of knives or

3083
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:41,510
Okay, I don't hear a lot of knives or
guns<01:06:39.359> coming<01:06:39.520> out,<01:06:39.680> so<01:06:39.839> that's<01:06:40.079> good.<01:06:40.720> Um,<01:06:41.359> but

3084
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:41,520
guns coming out, so that's good. Um, but

3085
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,349
guns coming out, so that's good. Um, but
I<01:06:41.760> did<01:06:41.839> have<01:06:42.079> just<01:06:42.160> a<01:06:42.400> basic<01:06:42.720> question,<01:06:43.039> very

3086
01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:43,359
I did have just a basic question, very

3087
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:45,750
I did have just a basic question, very
simple,<01:06:43.839> straightforward,<01:06:44.720> because<01:06:45.440> uh<01:06:45.599> for

3088
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:45,760
simple, straightforward, because uh for

3089
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,829
simple, straightforward, because uh for
myself,<01:06:46.160> I<01:06:46.319> read<01:06:46.480> up<01:06:46.720> the<01:06:46.880> definition<01:06:47.280> of

3090
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:47,839
myself, I read up the definition of

3091
01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:49,589
myself, I read up the definition of
socialism<01:06:48.480> before<01:06:48.720> I<01:06:48.960> came<01:06:49.119> here<01:06:49.359> and

3092
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:49,599
socialism before I came here and

3093
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:51,190
socialism before I came here and
realized<01:06:49.920> in<01:06:50.160> some<01:06:50.319> aspects<01:06:50.720> I'm<01:06:50.960> already

3094
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:51,200
realized in some aspects I'm already

3095
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,029
realized in some aspects I'm already
participating<01:06:51.760> it<01:06:52.160> in<01:06:52.400> it<01:06:52.559> in<01:06:52.720> a<01:06:52.880> different

3096
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:53,039
participating it in it in a different

3097
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:55,029
participating it in it in a different
sort<01:06:53.200> of<01:06:53.359> way.<01:06:54.000> So,<01:06:54.240> I<01:06:54.480> was<01:06:54.559> wondering<01:06:54.720> if<01:06:54.880> you

3098
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:55,039
sort of way. So, I was wondering if you

3099
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:56,470
sort of way. So, I was wondering if you
could<01:06:55.200> for<01:06:55.359> the<01:06:55.520> whole<01:06:55.680> class,<01:06:56.000> for<01:06:56.160> anybody

3100
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:56,480
could for the whole class, for anybody

3101
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,150
could for the whole class, for anybody
else<01:06:56.640> who<01:06:56.960> doesn't<01:06:57.280> know,<01:06:57.520> if<01:06:57.760> anybody<01:06:58.000> from

3102
01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:58,160
else who doesn't know, if anybody from

3103
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,069
else who doesn't know, if anybody from
the<01:06:58.319> panel<01:06:58.559> there<01:06:58.880> could<01:06:59.039> be<01:06:59.200> so<01:06:59.440> kind<01:06:59.599> as<01:06:59.920> to

3104
01:07:00,069 --> 01:07:00,079
the panel there could be so kind as to

3105
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:03,430
the panel there could be so kind as to
define<01:07:00.839> socialism<01:07:01.839> as<01:07:02.160> best<01:07:02.400> you<01:07:02.559> can<01:07:02.799> because

3106
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:03,440
define socialism as best you can because

3107
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,029
define socialism as best you can because
I<01:07:03.680> think<01:07:03.760> it<01:07:04.000> would<01:07:04.079> be<01:07:04.240> good<01:07:04.400> for<01:07:04.559> people<01:07:04.799> to

3108
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:05,039
I think it would be good for people to

3109
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:06,789
I think it would be good for people to
understand

3110
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:06,799
understand

3111
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:08,789
understand
uh<01:07:07.039> that<01:07:07.359> it's<01:07:07.599> not<01:07:07.760> a<01:07:07.920> dirty<01:07:08.240> word.<01:07:08.559> It's<01:07:08.720> not

3112
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:08,799
uh that it's not a dirty word. It's not

3113
01:07:08,799 --> 01:07:10,309
uh that it's not a dirty word. It's not
a<01:07:08.960> bad<01:07:09.119> word.<01:07:09.440> It's<01:07:09.599> not<01:07:09.680> a<01:07:09.839> word<01:07:10.000> like

3114
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:10,319
a bad word. It's not a word like

3115
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:11,910
a bad word. It's not a word like
conservatives<01:07:10.799> have<01:07:11.039> been<01:07:11.200> brainwashed<01:07:11.680> and

3116
01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:11,920
conservatives have been brainwashed and

3117
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,069
conservatives have been brainwashed and
trained<01:07:12.240> as<01:07:12.480> a<01:07:12.720> trigger<01:07:13.039> word<01:07:13.280> to<01:07:13.599> lose<01:07:13.839> their

3118
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:14,079
trained as a trigger word to lose their

3119
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:17,270
trained as a trigger word to lose their
minds<01:07:14.400> at.<01:07:14.880> So,<01:07:15.839> uh<01:07:16.079> just<01:07:16.319> wanted<01:07:16.640> to<01:07:16.880> uh<01:07:17.039> ask

3120
01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:17,280
minds at. So, uh just wanted to uh ask

3121
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,710
minds at. So, uh just wanted to uh ask
if<01:07:17.440> you<01:07:17.599> guys<01:07:17.760> could<01:07:17.920> define<01:07:18.160> that<01:07:18.319> for<01:07:18.480> me,

3122
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:18,720
if you guys could define that for me,

3123
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,710
if you guys could define that for me,
please.

3124
01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:20,720
please.

3125
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,910
please.
Well,<01:07:21.039> that<01:07:21.359> might<01:07:21.520> be<01:07:21.599> a<01:07:21.920> an<01:07:22.480> uh<01:07:22.799> question<01:07:23.599> I

3126
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:23,920
Well, that might be a an uh question I

3127
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,589
Well, that might be a an uh question I
could<01:07:24.079> answer<01:07:24.480> better.<01:07:25.039> I<01:07:25.200> don't<01:07:25.280> know<01:07:25.440> if

3128
01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:25,599
could answer better. I don't know if

3129
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:30,150
could answer better. I don't know if
someone<01:07:25.839> wants<01:07:26.079> to<01:07:26.960> I<01:07:27.119> knew<01:07:27.280> you<01:07:27.559> were<01:07:28.559> there.

3130
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:30,160
someone wants to I knew you were there.

3131
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:36,230
someone wants to I knew you were there.
So<01:07:30.880> um<01:07:31.280> socialism<01:07:32.000> simply<01:07:32.880> is<01:07:33.359> that<01:07:34.400> uh<01:07:34.799> the<01:07:35.680> uh

3132
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:36,240
So um socialism simply is that uh the uh

3133
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,109
So um socialism simply is that uh the uh
you<01:07:36.400> know<01:07:36.880> the<01:07:37.359> employees<01:07:38.079> or<01:07:38.480> the<01:07:38.640> the

3134
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:39,119
you know the employees or the the

3135
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:42,230
you know the employees or the the
capital<01:07:39.520> that<01:07:39.839> makes<01:07:40.240> things<01:07:41.599> uh<01:07:41.920> you<01:07:42.079> know

3136
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:42,240
capital that makes things uh you know

3137
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,109
capital that makes things uh you know
the<01:07:42.400> the<01:07:42.880> building<01:07:43.400> whatever<01:07:44.400> is<01:07:44.720> something

3138
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:45,119
the the building whatever is something

3139
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,390
the the building whatever is something
that<01:07:45.520> is<01:07:46.480> uh<01:07:46.720> owned<01:07:47.599> not<01:07:47.920> by<01:07:48.079> a<01:07:48.319> private

3140
01:07:49,390 --> 01:07:49,400
that is uh owned not by a private

3141
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,150
that is uh owned not by a private
interest<01:07:50.400> but<01:07:50.880> is<01:07:51.200> owned<01:07:51.440> and<01:07:51.680> managed

3142
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:52,160
interest but is owned and managed

3143
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,109
interest but is owned and managed
democratically<01:07:53.119> okay<01:07:53.440> at<01:07:53.680> some<01:07:53.920> level.<01:07:54.319> So<01:07:54.720> my

3144
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:55,119
democratically okay at some level. So my

3145
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:57,069
democratically okay at some level. So my
favorite<01:07:55.520> go-to<01:07:56.000> example<01:07:56.319> is<01:07:56.480> the<01:07:56.720> public

3146
01:07:57,069 --> 01:07:57,079
favorite go-to example is the public

3147
01:07:57,079 --> 01:08:00,230
favorite go-to example is the public
library.<01:07:58.160> It's<01:07:58.319> a<01:07:58.559> perfect<01:07:58.880> example<01:07:59.520> of<01:08:00.000> and

3148
01:08:00,230 --> 01:08:00,240
library. It's a perfect example of and

3149
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,430
library. It's a perfect example of and
we<01:08:00.480> have<01:08:00.559> a<01:08:00.720> public<01:08:01.039> library<01:08:01.680> employee<01:08:02.160> right

3150
01:08:02,430 --> 01:08:02,440
we have a public library employee right

3151
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,990
we have a public library employee right
here<01:08:03.640> who<01:08:04.640> who's<01:08:04.960> also<01:08:05.280> a<01:08:05.440> member<01:08:05.680> of<01:08:05.760> the

3152
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:06,000
here who who's also a member of the

3153
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,910
here who who's also a member of the
union<01:08:06.319> and<01:08:06.640> he's<01:08:06.960> running<01:08:07.319> for<01:08:08.319> ward<01:08:09.039> ward<01:08:09.440> one

3154
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:09,920
union and he's running for ward ward one

3155
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,470
union and he's running for ward ward one
ward<01:08:10.240> one<01:08:10.799> uh<01:08:10.960> city<01:08:11.280> council.<01:08:12.000> So<01:08:13.039> um<01:08:13.920> I<01:08:14.079> I<01:08:14.319> got

3156
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:14,480
ward one uh city council. So um I I got

3157
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,709
ward one uh city council. So um I I got
all<01:08:14.720> that<01:08:14.880> in<01:08:15.119> Lucas<01:08:15.839> Lucas<01:08:16.239> Moody.<01:08:17.159> Um,<01:08:18.159> so,

3158
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:18,719
all that in Lucas Lucas Moody. Um, so,

3159
01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:20,149
all that in Lucas Lucas Moody. Um, so,
uh,<01:08:18.880> if<01:08:19.120> you<01:08:19.279> think<01:08:19.359> about<01:08:19.600> the<01:08:19.839> public

3160
01:08:20,149 --> 01:08:20,159
uh, if you think about the public

3161
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:24,070
uh, if you think about the public
library,<01:08:21.040> okay,<01:08:21.759> it's<01:08:22.159> run<01:08:22.480> by,<01:08:23.120> uh,<01:08:23.279> a<01:08:23.520> board,

3162
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:24,080
library, okay, it's run by, uh, a board,

3163
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,709
library, okay, it's run by, uh, a board,
you<01:08:24.239> know,<01:08:24.400> that<01:08:24.719> is<01:08:24.960> is<01:08:25.600> at<01:08:25.679> least,<01:08:26.400> uh,

3164
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:26,719
you know, that is is at least, uh,

3165
01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:27,789
you know, that is is at least, uh,
partly

3166
01:08:27,789 --> 01:08:27,799
partly

3167
01:08:27,799 --> 01:08:30,789
partly
democratically,<01:08:29.040> uh,<01:08:29.560> accountable.<01:08:30.560> It's

3168
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:30,799
democratically, uh, accountable. It's

3169
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:33,030
democratically, uh, accountable. It's
owned<01:08:31.040> by<01:08:31.199> all<01:08:31.440> of<01:08:31.520> us.<01:08:32.000> It's<01:08:32.239> paid<01:08:32.560> by<01:08:32.719> all<01:08:32.880> of

3170
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:33,040
owned by all of us. It's paid by all of

3171
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,550
owned by all of us. It's paid by all of
us<01:08:33.839> and<01:08:34.159> we<01:08:34.480> all<01:08:34.719> can<01:08:34.880> use<01:08:35.040> it,<01:08:35.520> right?<01:08:36.319> So,

3172
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:36,560
us and we all can use it, right? So,

3173
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,630
us and we all can use it, right? So,
that's<01:08:36.799> that's<01:08:37.120> anam<01:08:37.679> that's<01:08:38.560> one<01:08:38.960> really<01:08:40.000> uh,

3174
01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:40,640
that's that's anam that's one really uh,

3175
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,950
that's that's anam that's one really uh,
good<01:08:40.960> example.<01:08:41.759> And<01:08:42.000> there's<01:08:42.480> plenty<01:08:42.799> of

3176
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:42,960
good example. And there's plenty of

3177
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,550
good example. And there's plenty of
others,<01:08:43.359> right?<01:08:43.600> You<01:08:43.759> could<01:08:43.920> talk<01:08:44.080> about<01:08:44.239> our

3178
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:44,560
others, right? You could talk about our

3179
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,590
others, right? You could talk about our
road<01:08:44.880> system.<01:08:45.440> You<01:08:45.679> could<01:08:45.839> talk<01:08:46.080> about<01:08:47.120> uh<01:08:47.359> you

3180
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:47,600
road system. You could talk about uh you

3181
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,070
road system. You could talk about uh you
could<01:08:48.000> talk<01:08:48.239> about<01:08:48.400> the<01:08:48.719> military.<01:08:49.679> You<01:08:49.920> could

3182
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:50,080
could talk about the military. You could

3183
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,709
could talk about the military. You could
talk<01:08:50.319> about<01:08:51.120> lots<01:08:51.520> of<01:08:51.679> things<01:08:52.080> that<01:08:52.400> aren't

3184
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:52,719
talk about lots of things that aren't

3185
01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:55,269
talk about lots of things that aren't
privately<01:08:53.199> owned.<01:08:53.679> Okay,<01:08:54.159> that's<01:08:54.719> Does<01:08:54.960> that

3186
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:55,279
privately owned. Okay, that's Does that

3187
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:57,990
privately owned. Okay, that's Does that
answer<01:08:55.600> your<01:08:55.759> question?<01:08:56.719> Yeah.<01:08:57.000> Cool.

3188
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:58,000
answer your question? Yeah. Cool.

3189
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,669
answer your question? Yeah. Cool.
Socialism.

3190
01:09:01,669 --> 01:09:01,679


3191
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:04,390
Yes.<01:09:02.080> Well,<01:09:02.480> I<01:09:02.640> I<01:09:02.960> have<01:09:03.120> to<01:09:03.440> put<01:09:04.000> You<01:09:04.239> have<01:09:04.319> to

3192
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:04,400
Yes. Well, I I have to put You have to

3193
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,470
Yes. Well, I I have to put You have to
project.<01:09:04.880> That's<01:09:05.120> not<01:09:05.440> That's<01:09:05.679> not<01:09:06.159> Oh,<01:09:06.319> it's

3194
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:06,480
project. That's not That's not Oh, it's

3195
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:09,269
project. That's not That's not Oh, it's
not.<01:09:07.199> Yeah.<01:09:08.080> You're<01:09:08.319> sure<01:09:08.560> you<01:09:08.799> want<01:09:08.960> me<01:09:09.120> to

3196
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:09,279
not. Yeah. You're sure you want me to

3197
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:14,630
not. Yeah. You're sure you want me to
project?<01:09:10.400> Just<01:09:10.640> like<01:09:10.880> that.<01:09:12.159> Okay.<01:09:13.359> Uh<01:09:14.319> the

3198
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:14,640
project? Just like that. Okay. Uh the

3199
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,749
project? Just like that. Okay. Uh the
question<01:09:14.880> I<01:09:15.199> wanted<01:09:15.359> to<01:09:15.600> ask<01:09:15.839> folks<01:09:16.440> was<01:09:17.440> a

3200
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:17,759
question I wanted to ask folks was a

3201
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:21,309
question I wanted to ask folks was a
concern<01:09:18.640> and<01:09:18.960> how<01:09:19.520> do<01:09:19.679> we<01:09:20.080> how<01:09:20.319> do<01:09:20.400> we<01:09:20.640> raise

3202
01:09:21,309 --> 01:09:21,319
concern and how do we how do we raise

3203
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:25,030
concern and how do we how do we raise
funds<01:09:22.319> for<01:09:22.719> people<01:09:23.120> who<01:09:23.440> will<01:09:23.759> need<01:09:24.040> that

3204
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:25,040
funds for people who will need that

3205
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,550
funds for people who will need that
while<01:09:25.359> the<01:09:25.600> strikes<01:09:26.080> are<01:09:26.319> going<01:09:26.560> on<01:09:27.560> because

3206
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:28,560
while the strikes are going on because

3207
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,189
while the strikes are going on because
that's<01:09:29.279> a<01:09:29.520> big<01:09:29.759> preventative<01:09:30.400> thing<01:09:30.719> for<01:09:30.960> a

3208
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:31,199
that's a big preventative thing for a

3209
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,669
that's a big preventative thing for a
lot<01:09:31.279> of<01:09:31.359> people<01:09:31.679> wanting<01:09:32.080> to<01:09:32.239> go<01:09:32.400> on<01:09:32.719> strike.

3210
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:33,679
lot of people wanting to go on strike.

3211
01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:35,749
lot of people wanting to go on strike.
How<01:09:33.839> do<01:09:34.000> we<01:09:34.159> pay<01:09:34.319> for<01:09:34.480> our<01:09:34.719> child<01:09:35.040> care?<01:09:35.440> How<01:09:35.600> do

3212
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:35,759
How do we pay for our child care? How do

3213
01:09:35,759 --> 01:09:38,149
How do we pay for our child care? How do
we<01:09:35.920> do<01:09:36.239> you<01:09:36.319> know<01:09:36.480> do<01:09:36.640> we<01:09:36.880> organize<01:09:37.440> potlucks?

3214
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:38,159
we do you know do we organize potlucks?

3215
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:40,950
we do you know do we organize potlucks?
Do<01:09:38.319> we,<01:09:38.799> you<01:09:38.960> know,<01:09:39.120> I<01:09:39.279> I<01:09:39.600> know<01:09:39.839> that's<01:09:40.239> done.

3216
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:40,960
Do we, you know, I I know that's done.

3217
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,030
Do we, you know, I I know that's done.
And<01:09:41.199> maybe<01:09:41.679> maybe<01:09:42.080> Mark<01:09:42.400> has<01:09:42.560> a<01:09:42.719> lot<01:09:42.880> of

3218
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:43,040
And maybe maybe Mark has a lot of

3219
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,550
And maybe maybe Mark has a lot of
information<01:09:43.440> from<01:09:43.679> the<01:09:43.920> teachers<01:09:44.239> that<01:09:44.480> did

3220
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:44,560
information from the teachers that did

3221
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,430
information from the teachers that did
this<01:09:44.799> in<01:09:45.319> 2019.<01:09:46.319> That<01:09:46.480> would<01:09:46.640> be<01:09:46.799> great.<01:09:47.199> Um,

3222
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:47,440
this in 2019. That would be great. Um,

3223
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,910
this in 2019. That would be great. Um,
I'd<01:09:47.679> love<01:09:48.000> I'd<01:09:48.239> love<01:09:48.319> to<01:09:48.480> hear<01:09:48.640> that.<01:09:49.520> I<01:09:49.759> wanted

3224
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:49,920
I'd love I'd love to hear that. I wanted

3225
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,390
I'd love I'd love to hear that. I wanted
to<01:09:50.159> brag<01:09:50.480> a<01:09:50.640> little<01:09:50.799> bit.<01:09:51.199> I<01:09:51.440> was<01:09:51.600> a<01:09:51.759> member.<01:09:52.159> I

3226
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:52,400
to brag a little bit. I was a member. I

3227
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,590
to brag a little bit. I was a member. I
was<01:09:52.480> a<01:09:52.640> secretary<01:09:53.199> at<01:09:53.839> Columbia<01:09:54.600> University

3228
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:55,600
was a secretary at Columbia University

3229
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,590
was a secretary at Columbia University
and<01:09:56.080> I<01:09:56.400> joined<01:09:56.719> the<01:09:57.159> union<01:09:58.159> and<01:09:58.560> we<01:09:58.960> won<01:09:59.280> a

3230
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:59,600
and I joined the union and we won a

3231
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:06,110
and I joined the union and we won a
historic<01:10:00.239> win.<01:10:01.040> First<01:10:01.360> time<01:10:01.679> ever<01:10:02.560> child<01:10:03.159> care

3232
01:10:06,110 --> 01:10:06,120
historic win. First time ever child care

3233
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:11,430
historic win. First time ever child care
for<01:10:07.120> for<01:10:07.800> secretaries.<01:10:08.840> Okay.<01:10:09.840> And<01:10:10.239> we<01:10:10.560> kept

3234
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:11,440
for for secretaries. Okay. And we kept

3235
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:14,790
for for secretaries. Okay. And we kept
our<01:10:12.159> uh<01:10:12.480> 4-w<01:10:12.880> week<01:10:13.199> paid<01:10:13.679> vacation.<01:10:14.560> They

3236
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:14,800
our uh 4-w week paid vacation. They

3237
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,350
our uh 4-w week paid vacation. They
wanted<01:10:14.960> to<01:10:15.120> get<01:10:15.280> rid<01:10:15.440> of<01:10:15.520> it.<01:10:15.920> We<01:10:16.239> kept<01:10:16.560> it.<01:10:17.120> It

3238
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:17,360
wanted to get rid of it. We kept it. It

3239
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:22,550
wanted to get rid of it. We kept it. It
was<01:10:17.520> UAW.<01:10:18.800> Yeah.<01:10:19.840> And<01:10:20.159> the<01:10:20.640> and<01:10:20.960> the<01:10:21.560> trash

3240
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:22,560
was UAW. Yeah. And the and the trash

3241
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,709
was UAW. Yeah. And the and the trash
picking<01:10:22.880> up<01:10:23.120> trash<01:10:23.440> in<01:10:23.679> New<01:10:23.840> York<01:10:24.080> City.<01:10:24.480> They

3242
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:24,719
picking up trash in New York City. They

3243
01:10:24,719 --> 01:10:28,030
picking up trash in New York City. They
said<01:10:25.600> we

3244
01:10:28,030 --> 01:10:28,040


3245
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,149
won't.<01:10:29.040> Can<01:10:29.280> you<01:10:29.800> imagine?<01:10:30.800> No<01:10:31.199> trash<01:10:31.600> pickup

3246
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:32,159
won't. Can you imagine? No trash pickup

3247
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:34,870
won't. Can you imagine? No trash pickup
in<01:10:32.400> New<01:10:32.640> York<01:10:32.800> City.<01:10:33.120> I<01:10:33.360> I<01:10:33.600> love<01:10:33.840> unions.<01:10:34.719> I

3248
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:34,880
in New York City. I I love unions. I

3249
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,860
in New York City. I I love unions. I
always

3250
01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:37,870
always

3251
01:10:37,870 --> 01:10:40,950
always
[Applause]

3252
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:40,960
[Applause]

3253
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:45,350
[Applause]
So<01:10:41.440> m<01:10:41.760> maybe<01:10:42.080> I<01:10:42.239> could<01:10:42.840> uh<01:10:43.840> ask<01:10:44.159> you,<01:10:44.480> do<01:10:44.719> you<01:10:45.040> do

3254
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:45,360
So m maybe I could uh ask you, do you do

3255
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,430
So m maybe I could uh ask you, do you do
you<01:10:45.440> have<01:10:45.679> strike<01:10:46.080> funds<01:10:46.560> in<01:10:46.880> any<01:10:47.120> of<01:10:47.280> your

3256
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:47,440
you have strike funds in any of your

3257
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:49,990
you have strike funds in any of your
unions?

3258
01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:50,000
unions?

3259
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,669
unions?
No.

3260
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:51,679
No.

3261
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:55,189
No.
So<01:10:52.239> So<01:10:52.640> if<01:10:52.880> you<01:10:53.040> were<01:10:53.199> to<01:10:53.440> go<01:10:53.600> out<01:10:53.840> on<01:10:54.199> strike,

3262
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:55,199
So So if you were to go out on strike,

3263
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:58,390
So So if you were to go out on strike,
you<01:10:55.440> would<01:10:55.600> be<01:10:55.760> taking<01:10:56.000> an<01:10:56.320> economic<01:10:56.800> hit.<01:10:58.159> All

3264
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:58,400
you would be taking an economic hit. All

3265
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,709
you would be taking an economic hit. All
All<01:10:58.560> of<01:10:58.719> you.<01:10:59.120> Absolutely.<01:10:59.760> Yeah.<01:11:00.080> And<01:11:00.239> and

3266
01:11:00,709 --> 01:11:00,719
All of you. Absolutely. Yeah. And and

3267
01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:02,709
All of you. Absolutely. Yeah. And and
for<01:11:01.040> a<01:11:01.199> lot<01:11:01.360> of<01:11:01.520> people,<01:11:01.920> your<01:11:02.239> medical

3268
01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:02,719
for a lot of people, your medical

3269
01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:04,470
for a lot of people, your medical
insurance

3270
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:04,480
insurance

3271
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:07,350
insurance
I<01:11:04.719> mean<01:11:04.880> that<01:11:05.120> that<01:11:05.920> is<01:11:06.239> almost<01:11:06.880> you<01:11:07.040> know<01:11:07.199> you

3272
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:07,360
I mean that that is almost you know you

3273
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,470
I mean that that is almost you know you
can<01:11:07.520> put<01:11:07.679> the<01:11:07.840> money<01:11:08.080> away<01:11:09.360> um<01:11:09.600> and<01:11:09.920> maybe<01:11:10.239> plan

3274
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:10,480
can put the money away um and maybe plan

3275
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:13,110
can put the money away um and maybe plan
for<01:11:10.640> a<01:11:10.800> strike<01:11:11.040> but<01:11:11.440> insurance<01:11:12.000> is<01:11:12.320> obviously

3276
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:13,120
for a strike but insurance is obviously

3277
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,830
for a strike but insurance is obviously
a<01:11:13.440> really<01:11:13.679> huge<01:11:14.000> issue.<01:11:14.719> What<01:11:15.280> one<01:11:15.520> of<01:11:15.600> the

3278
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:15,840
a really huge issue. What one of the

3279
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,709
a really huge issue. What one of the
things<01:11:16.000> that<01:11:16.320> in<01:11:16.560> the<01:11:16.800> big<01:11:17.040> UAW<01:11:17.760> strikes<01:11:18.560> uh

3280
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:18,719
things that in the big UAW strikes uh

3281
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:20,110
things that in the big UAW strikes uh
against<01:11:18.960> the<01:11:19.120> big<01:11:19.360> three

3282
01:11:20,110 --> 01:11:20,120
against the big three

3283
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,030
against the big three
automakers<01:11:21.120> that<01:11:21.920> it<01:11:22.159> wasn't<01:11:22.400> this<01:11:22.640> last<01:11:22.880> one

3284
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:23,040
automakers that it wasn't this last one

3285
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,590
automakers that it wasn't this last one
but<01:11:23.199> I<01:11:23.360> think<01:11:23.440> it<01:11:23.600> was<01:11:23.679> the<01:11:23.840> one<01:11:24.440> before<01:11:25.440> the<01:11:26.159> uh

3286
01:11:26,590 --> 01:11:26,600
but I think it was the one before the uh

3287
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,030
but I think it was the one before the uh
automakers<01:11:27.600> cut<01:11:27.920> off<01:11:28.159> everyone's<01:11:28.719> health

3288
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:29,040
automakers cut off everyone's health

3289
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,830
automakers cut off everyone's health
insurance<01:11:29.679> that<01:11:30.000> that<01:11:30.320> was<01:11:30.480> out<01:11:30.640> on<01:11:30.880> strike.

3290
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:31,840
insurance that that was out on strike.

3291
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,790
insurance that that was out on strike.
Okay.<01:11:32.480> that<01:11:32.719> was<01:11:32.960> and<01:11:33.440> they<01:11:33.840> had<01:11:34.080> to<01:11:34.320> they<01:11:34.640> had

3292
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:34,800
Okay. that was and they had to they had

3293
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,110
Okay. that was and they had to they had
to<01:11:34.960> walk<01:11:35.199> that<01:11:35.440> back<01:11:36.000> okay<01:11:36.320> for<01:11:36.640> various

3294
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:37,120
to walk that back okay for various

3295
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,830
to walk that back okay for various
reasons<01:11:37.600> but<01:11:38.159> that's<01:11:38.480> another<01:11:38.880> weapon<01:11:39.520> it's

3296
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:39,840
reasons but that's another weapon it's

3297
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,550
reasons but that's another weapon it's
actually<01:11:40.239> another<01:11:40.719> reason<01:11:41.040> to<01:11:41.360> have<01:11:42.159> you<01:11:42.320> know

3298
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:42,560
actually another reason to have you know

3299
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,510
actually another reason to have you know
med<01:11:42.960> medicare<01:11:43.440> for<01:11:43.679> all<01:11:44.480> so<01:11:44.640> that<01:11:44.880> it<01:11:45.120> becomes

3300
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:45,520
med medicare for all so that it becomes

3301
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,390
med medicare for all so that it becomes
not<01:11:45.760> an<01:11:46.000> issue<01:11:46.640> right<01:11:47.280> it's<01:11:47.520> not<01:11:47.679> a<01:11:47.840> it's<01:11:48.159> not<01:11:48.239> a

3302
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:48,400
not an issue right it's not a it's not a

3303
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,709
not an issue right it's not a it's not a
leverage

3304
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leverage

3305
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leverage

3306
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3307
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3308
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um<01:11:55.600> so<01:11:55.760> I<01:11:56.000> have<01:11:56.080> a<01:11:56.239> question<01:11:56.800> so<01:11:57.360> I<01:11:57.600> was<01:11:57.760> a

3309
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:57,920
um so I have a question so I was a

3310
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,149
um so I have a question so I was a
teacher<01:11:58.159> for<01:11:58.320> a<01:11:58.560> while<01:11:58.719> and<01:11:58.960> it<01:11:59.120> is<01:11:59.280> very<01:11:59.679> easy

3311
01:12:00,149 --> 01:12:00,159
teacher for a while and it is very easy

3312
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teacher for a while and it is very easy
to<01:12:00.480> be<01:12:00.640> a<01:12:00.880> part<01:12:01.040> of<01:12:01.280> a<01:12:01.440> teacher<01:12:02.040> union<01:12:03.040> in

3313
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:03,360
to be a part of a teacher union in

3314
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,270
to be a part of a teacher union in
Montana.<01:12:04.000> Um<01:12:04.239> I<01:12:04.480> previously<01:12:04.880> worked<01:12:05.120> in

3315
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:05,280
Montana. Um I previously worked in

3316
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Montana. Um I previously worked in
Mississippi<01:12:05.760> and<01:12:06.239> right<01:12:06.400> to<01:12:06.560> work<01:12:06.800> state<01:12:07.120> no

3317
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:07,360
Mississippi and right to work state no

3318
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Mississippi and right to work state no
union<01:12:07.760> representation<01:12:08.640> of<01:12:08.960> any<01:12:09.360> public

3319
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union representation of any public

3320
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union representation of any public
employee<01:12:10.400> and<01:12:10.560> then<01:12:10.800> moving<01:12:11.040> here<01:12:11.280> it<01:12:11.440> was<01:12:11.520> so

3321
01:12:11,669 --> 01:12:11,679
employee and then moving here it was so

3322
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employee and then moving here it was so
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3323
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:14,080
wonderful to be a part of a union but it

3324
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,950
wonderful to be a part of a union but it
was<01:12:14.239> so<01:12:14.880> easy<01:12:15.199> to<01:12:15.440> become<01:12:15.679> a<01:12:15.920> part<01:12:16.000> of<01:12:16.080> a<01:12:16.320> union

3325
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:16,960
was so easy to become a part of a union

3326
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,510
was so easy to become a part of a union
and<01:12:17.199> now<01:12:17.440> I<01:12:17.600> am<01:12:17.760> in<01:12:17.920> the<01:12:18.000> nonprofit<01:12:18.640> sector<01:12:19.360> and

3327
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:19,520
and now I am in the nonprofit sector and

3328
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,070
and now I am in the nonprofit sector and
I<01:12:19.760> feel<01:12:19.920> very<01:12:20.159> excited<01:12:20.560> because<01:12:20.880> I<01:12:21.280> am<01:12:21.520> in<01:12:21.840> a

3329
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:22,080
I feel very excited because I am in a

3330
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,030
I feel very excited because I am in a
place<01:12:22.679> where<01:12:23.679> apparently<01:12:24.159> there<01:12:24.480> were<01:12:24.719> talks

3331
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:25,040
place where apparently there were talks

3332
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,669
place where apparently there were talks
of<01:12:25.199> a<01:12:25.360> union<01:12:26.000> before<01:12:26.320> I<01:12:26.640> entered<01:12:27.199> but<01:12:27.440> then

3333
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:27,679
of a union before I entered but then

3334
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:29,070
of a union before I entered but then
some<01:12:27.840> of<01:12:28.000> the<01:12:28.159> key

3335
01:12:29,070 --> 01:12:29,080
some of the key

3336
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,669
some of the key
players<01:12:30.080> moved<01:12:30.400> on<01:12:30.560> and<01:12:30.800> the<01:12:31.040> union<01:12:31.360> never

3337
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:31,679
players moved on and the union never

3338
01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:35,270
players moved on and the union never
formed.<01:12:33.040> But<01:12:33.199> I<01:12:33.520> am<01:12:33.760> interested<01:12:34.560> and<01:12:34.800> I<01:12:35.040> think

3339
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:35,280
formed. But I am interested and I think

3340
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,470
formed. But I am interested and I think
may<01:12:35.600> right<01:12:35.920> like<01:12:36.239> forming<01:12:36.640> a<01:12:36.800> union<01:12:37.040> in<01:12:37.280> a

3341
01:12:37,470 --> 01:12:37,480
may right like forming a union in a

3342
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:40,310
may right like forming a union in a
nonprofit<01:12:38.480> is<01:12:38.960> maybe<01:12:39.280> a<01:12:39.520> bit<01:12:39.679> different<01:12:40.000> than

3343
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:40,320
nonprofit is maybe a bit different than

3344
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,310
nonprofit is maybe a bit different than
forming<01:12:41.280> in<01:12:41.520> a<01:12:41.880> for-profit<01:12:42.880> business.<01:12:43.840> Um<01:12:44.080> but

3345
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:44,320
forming in a for-profit business. Um but

3346
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,590
forming in a for-profit business. Um but
I<01:12:44.560> am<01:12:44.800> curious<01:12:45.800> about<01:12:46.800> especially<01:12:47.199> like<01:12:47.440> maybe

3347
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:47,600
I am curious about especially like maybe

3348
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,830
I am curious about especially like maybe
in<01:12:48.159> well<01:12:48.400> no<01:12:48.719> I<01:12:48.960> guess<01:12:49.040> like<01:12:49.280> any<01:12:49.520> size

3349
01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:49,840
in well no I guess like any size

3350
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,189
in well no I guess like any size
organization

3351
01:12:52,189 --> 01:12:52,199
organization

3352
01:12:52,199 --> 01:12:55,270
organization
um<01:12:53.199> of<01:12:53.440> of<01:12:53.840> what<01:12:54.080> those<01:12:54.400> beginning<01:12:54.800> steps<01:12:55.120> and

3353
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:55,280
um of of what those beginning steps and

3354
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,830
um of of what those beginning steps and
I<01:12:55.600> think<01:12:55.920> often<01:12:56.320> it<01:12:56.560> is<01:12:56.800> conversations<01:12:57.600> with

3355
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:57,840
I think often it is conversations with

3356
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,270
I think often it is conversations with
your<01:12:58.360> co-workers<01:12:59.360> which<01:12:59.840> happen<01:13:00.719> but<01:13:00.960> I<01:13:01.120> think

3357
01:13:01,270 --> 01:13:01,280
your co-workers which happen but I think

3358
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:02,709
your co-workers which happen but I think
like<01:13:01.440> once<01:13:01.679> you've<01:13:02.000> started<01:13:02.239> to<01:13:02.480> have

3359
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:02,719
like once you've started to have

3360
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:05,270
like once you've started to have
conversations<01:13:03.520> and<01:13:03.840> you<01:13:04.080> know<01:13:04.480> that<01:13:04.719> there<01:13:04.960> is

3361
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:05,280
conversations and you know that there is

3362
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,149
conversations and you know that there is
interest<01:13:05.760> what<01:13:05.920> are<01:13:06.080> like<01:13:06.800> basic<01:13:07.360> steps<01:13:07.760> that

3363
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:08,159
interest what are like basic steps that

3364
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:12,070
interest what are like basic steps that
people<01:13:08.640> who<01:13:09.040> are<01:13:09.360> not<01:13:09.679> in<01:13:09.920> a<01:13:10.159> union<01:13:11.440> um<01:13:11.520> and<01:13:11.840> do

3365
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:12,080
people who are not in a union um and do

3366
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,830
people who are not in a union um and do
not<01:13:12.800> are<01:13:13.120> not<01:13:13.440> publicly<01:13:14.199> affiliated.<01:13:15.199> Um<01:13:15.600> what

3367
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:15,840
not are not publicly affiliated. Um what

3368
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,189
not are not publicly affiliated. Um what
are<01:13:16.320> some<01:13:16.640> practical<01:13:17.199> steps<01:13:17.560> that<01:13:18.560> people<01:13:18.880> can

3369
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:19,199
are some practical steps that people can

3370
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:25,669
are some practical steps that people can
take?<01:13:20.000> Sure.<01:13:20.480> Yeah.<01:13:21.040> Um<01:13:21.920> email<01:13:22.520> Mark<01:13:23.520> and

3371
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:25,679
take? Sure. Yeah. Um email Mark and

3372
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:28,310
take? Sure. Yeah. Um email Mark and
uh<01:13:26.480> we<01:13:26.719> we<01:13:27.040> started<01:13:27.360> with<01:13:27.520> a<01:13:27.760> very<01:13:28.000> kind<01:13:28.239> of

3373
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:28,320
uh we we started with a very kind of

3374
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,830
uh we we started with a very kind of
like<01:13:28.560> quiet<01:13:28.960> roll<01:13:29.199> out<01:13:29.600> like<01:13:30.000> I<01:13:30.239> was<01:13:30.840> just

3375
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:31,840
like quiet roll out like I was just

3376
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,470
like quiet roll out like I was just
being<01:13:32.080> a<01:13:32.400> little<01:13:32.560> more<01:13:33.040> ready<01:13:33.360> to<01:13:33.600> go<01:13:33.920> and

3377
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:34,480
being a little more ready to go and

3378
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:38,310
being a little more ready to go and
agitate<01:13:35.120> everybody<01:13:35.679> once<01:13:36.480> I<01:13:36.880> was<01:13:37.120> hearing<01:13:37.440> it,

3379
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:38,320
agitate everybody once I was hearing it,

3380
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,910
agitate everybody once I was hearing it,
you<01:13:38.480> know.<01:13:38.640> And<01:13:38.880> yeah,<01:13:39.120> a<01:13:39.280> lot<01:13:39.360> of<01:13:39.440> people<01:13:39.679> just

3381
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:39,920
you know. And yeah, a lot of people just

3382
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,830
you know. And yeah, a lot of people just
don't<01:13:40.080> know.<01:13:40.480> So<01:13:40.719> you<01:13:41.040> start<01:13:41.280> trying<01:13:41.440> to<01:13:41.600> find

3383
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:41,840
don't know. So you start trying to find

3384
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,310
don't know. So you start trying to find
resources<01:13:42.320> online,<01:13:43.280> you<01:13:43.440> know,<01:13:43.679> some<01:13:43.920> some

3385
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:44,320
resources online, you know, some some

3386
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,310
resources online, you know, some some
simple<01:13:44.640> explainers<01:13:45.199> of<01:13:45.600> perhaps<01:13:45.920> like<01:13:46.159> what

3387
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:46,320
simple explainers of perhaps like what

3388
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,229
simple explainers of perhaps like what
is<01:13:46.480> a<01:13:46.640> union<01:13:46.960> or<01:13:47.520> what<01:13:47.760> what<01:13:48.000> kind<01:13:48.159> of

3389
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:48,239
is a union or what what kind of

3390
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:50,229
is a union or what what kind of
protections<01:13:48.719> can<01:13:48.960> a<01:13:49.120> union<01:13:49.440> offer<01:13:49.760> you?<01:13:50.080> What

3391
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:50,239
protections can a union offer you? What

3392
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:52,709
protections can a union offer you? What
are<01:13:50.400> some<01:13:50.480> of<01:13:50.560> the<01:13:50.719> bene<01:13:51.120> potential<01:13:51.719> benefits?

3393
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:52,719
are some of the bene potential benefits?

3394
01:13:52,719 --> 01:13:57,350
are some of the bene potential benefits?
Uh<01:13:53.400> then<01:13:54.400> we<01:13:54.960> I<01:13:55.280> went<01:13:55.679> we<01:13:56.239> started<01:13:56.560> with<01:13:56.800> a<01:13:57.040> few

3395
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:57,360
Uh then we I went we started with a few

3396
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,310
Uh then we I went we started with a few
a<01:13:57.760> small<01:13:58.080> handful<01:13:58.480> of<01:13:58.640> people.<01:13:59.120> Rachel<01:14:00.080> who

3397
01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:00,320
a small handful of people. Rachel who

3398
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,229
a small handful of people. Rachel who
you<01:14:00.480> see<01:14:00.640> over<01:14:00.880> here<01:14:01.199> at<01:14:01.520> the<01:14:01.679> booth<01:14:02.000> get<01:14:02.159> a

3399
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:02,239
you see over here at the booth get a

3400
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:04,790
you see over here at the booth get a
button<01:14:02.560> or<01:14:02.719> a<01:14:03.000> t-shirt.<01:14:04.000> Got<01:14:04.239> to<01:14:04.400> shout<01:14:04.640> out

3401
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:04,800
button or a t-shirt. Got to shout out

3402
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,870
button or a t-shirt. Got to shout out

3403
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:05,760


3404
01:14:07,870 --> 01:14:07,880
the merch. Um

3405
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,149
the merch. Um
uh<01:14:08.880> you<01:14:09.440> um<01:14:09.920> and<01:14:10.640> so<01:14:10.960> we<01:14:11.360> you<01:14:11.600> know<01:14:11.840> started

3406
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:12,159
uh you um and so we you know started

3407
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:14,870
uh you um and so we you know started
forming<01:14:12.400> a<01:14:12.640> plan<01:14:12.800> of<01:14:12.960> attack<01:14:13.440> and<01:14:13.920> Rachel<01:14:14.640> knew

3408
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:14,880
forming a plan of attack and Rachel knew

3409
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,030
forming a plan of attack and Rachel knew
Mark<01:14:15.199> and<01:14:15.440> so<01:14:15.679> helped<01:14:15.920> us<01:14:16.080> with<01:14:16.239> that.<01:14:16.640> But

3410
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:17,040
Mark and so helped us with that. But

3411
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,030
Mark and so helped us with that. But
then<01:14:17.280> it<01:14:17.440> just<01:14:17.600> sort<01:14:17.760> of<01:14:17.840> became<01:14:18.320> each<01:14:18.640> person

3412
01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:19,040
then it just sort of became each person

3413
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,110
then it just sort of became each person
talks<01:14:19.360> to<01:14:19.600> three<01:14:19.920> people.<01:14:20.480> You<01:14:20.640> know<01:14:20.719> you<01:14:20.960> just

3414
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:21,120
talks to three people. You know you just

3415
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,669
talks to three people. You know you just
sort<01:14:21.280> of<01:14:21.360> phone<01:14:21.679> tree<01:14:22.080> out<01:14:22.960> and<01:14:23.600> you<01:14:23.760> know<01:14:24.320> very

3416
01:14:24,669 --> 01:14:24,679
sort of phone tree out and you know very

3417
01:14:24,679 --> 01:14:27,510
sort of phone tree out and you know very
quietly<01:14:25.679> maybe<01:14:26.000> not<01:14:26.239> at<01:14:26.480> work<01:14:26.719> on<01:14:26.960> premises

3418
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:27,520
quietly maybe not at work on premises

3419
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:28,709
quietly maybe not at work on premises
but<01:14:27.679> it<01:14:27.840> is<01:14:28.000> very<01:14:28.239> challenging<01:14:28.560> in

3420
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:28,719
but it is very challenging in

3421
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:29,910
but it is very challenging in
nonprofits.<01:14:29.280> There<01:14:29.520> are<01:14:29.600> a<01:14:29.760> lot<01:14:29.840> of

3422
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:29,920
nonprofits. There are a lot of

3423
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,550
nonprofits. There are a lot of
nonprofits<01:14:30.560> right<01:14:30.719> now,<01:14:31.199> you<01:14:31.360> know,<01:14:32.080> quality

3424
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:32,560
nonprofits right now, you know, quality

3425
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,030
nonprofits right now, you know, quality
project,<01:14:33.199> the<01:14:33.440> Trevor<01:14:34.000> Project,<01:14:34.400> like<01:14:34.640> the

3426
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:35,040
project, the Trevor Project, like the

3427
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,910
project, the Trevor Project, like the
that<01:14:35.199> are<01:14:35.520> really<01:14:35.920> having<01:14:36.800> great<01:14:37.199> difficulty

3428
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:37,920
that are really having great difficulty

3429
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,709
that are really having great difficulty
organizing.<01:14:38.560> And<01:14:38.800> I<01:14:38.960> think<01:14:39.040> that's<01:14:39.280> a<01:14:39.520> very

3430
01:14:39,709 --> 01:14:39,719
organizing. And I think that's a very

3431
01:14:39,719 --> 01:14:41,910
organizing. And I think that's a very
common<01:14:40.719> what<01:14:40.960> you<01:14:41.120> will<01:14:41.280> experience<01:14:41.600> as<01:14:41.760> a

3432
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:41,920
common what you will experience as a

3433
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,830
common what you will experience as a
thing<01:14:42.000> we<01:14:42.239> do<01:14:42.400> because<01:14:42.719> we<01:14:42.960> have<01:14:43.120> a<01:14:43.360> component

3434
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:43,840
thing we do because we have a component

3435
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,470
thing we do because we have a component
that<01:14:44.080> is<01:14:44.480> entirely<01:14:45.040> charitable<01:14:46.000> of<01:14:46.239> all

3436
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:46,480
that is entirely charitable of all

3437
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:48,070
that is entirely charitable of all
profits<01:14:46.800> to<01:14:47.040> charity.<01:14:47.440> Sort<01:14:47.600> of<01:14:47.679> think<01:14:47.920> like

3438
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:48,080
profits to charity. Sort of think like

3439
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,510
profits to charity. Sort of think like
the<01:14:48.239> Newman<01:14:48.719> Zone<01:14:49.440> type<01:14:49.679> of<01:14:49.920> setup.<01:14:50.640> Um,<01:14:51.280> they

3440
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:51,520
the Newman Zone type of setup. Um, they

3441
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,750
the Newman Zone type of setup. Um, they
will<01:14:51.760> use<01:14:52.000> that<01:14:52.320> as<01:14:52.719> an<01:14:52.960> another<01:14:53.360> tactic

3442
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:53,760
will use that as an another tactic

3443
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,830
will use that as an another tactic
against<01:14:54.000> you.<01:14:54.239> Oh,<01:14:54.400> but<01:14:54.560> we<01:14:54.719> do<01:14:54.880> good<01:14:55.120> work.

3444
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:55,840
against you. Oh, but we do good work.

3445
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:56,950
against you. Oh, but we do good work.
You<01:14:55.920> know,<01:14:56.080> we're<01:14:56.320> the<01:14:56.400> good<01:14:56.560> guys<01:14:56.719> in

3446
01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:56,960
You know, we're the good guys in

3447
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,430
You know, we're the good guys in
capitalism,<01:14:57.840> you<01:14:57.920> know,<01:14:58.080> and<01:14:58.320> and<01:14:59.120> you<01:14:59.280> know

3448
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:59,440
capitalism, you know, and and you know

3449
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:01,030
capitalism, you know, and and you know
that<01:14:59.600> that<01:14:59.920> like<01:15:00.159> isn't<01:15:00.400> it<01:15:00.560> great<01:15:00.719> that<01:15:00.880> you

3450
01:15:01,030 --> 01:15:01,040
that that like isn't it great that you

3451
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,510
that that like isn't it great that you
get<01:15:01.120> to<01:15:01.280> work<01:15:01.440> in<01:15:01.679> this<01:15:01.840> type<01:15:02.000> of<01:15:02.159> a<01:15:02.520> situation

3452
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:03,520
get to work in this type of a situation

3453
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,990
get to work in this type of a situation
as<01:15:03.760> if<01:15:03.920> that<01:15:04.239> you<01:15:04.480> don't<01:15:05.040> that<01:15:05.360> as<01:15:05.600> if<01:15:05.760> those

3454
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:06,000
as if that you don't that as if those

3455
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,470
as if that you don't that as if those
aren't<01:15:06.239> parallel<01:15:06.719> ideas<01:15:07.440> of<01:15:07.679> like<01:15:07.920> well<01:15:08.159> we<01:15:08.320> do

3456
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:08,480
aren't parallel ideas of like well we do

3457
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:10,070
aren't parallel ideas of like well we do
good<01:15:08.719> but<01:15:08.960> also<01:15:09.199> we<01:15:09.440> could<01:15:09.520> treat<01:15:09.760> the<01:15:09.920> people

3458
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:10,080
good but also we could treat the people

3459
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,950
good but also we could treat the people
who<01:15:10.239> do<01:15:10.400> that<01:15:10.640> good<01:15:11.360> well<01:15:11.679> as<01:15:12.080> as<01:15:12.400> well<01:15:12.719> and

3460
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:12,960
who do that good well as as well and

3461
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,950
who do that good well as as well and
make<01:15:13.120> sure<01:15:13.199> you<01:15:13.440> have<01:15:13.520> that<01:15:13.760> living<01:15:14.080> as<01:15:14.320> well.

3462
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:14,960
make sure you have that living as well.

3463
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,910
make sure you have that living as well.
But<01:15:15.199> yeah,<01:15:15.360> you<01:15:15.520> just<01:15:15.679> got<01:15:15.840> to<01:15:16.000> kind<01:15:16.239> of<01:15:16.719> um<01:15:17.600> you

3464
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:17,920
But yeah, you just got to kind of um you

3465
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,510
But yeah, you just got to kind of um you
do<01:15:18.080> just<01:15:18.239> kind<01:15:18.400> of<01:15:18.480> have<01:15:18.640> to<01:15:18.800> build<01:15:18.960> it<01:15:19.120> up.<01:15:19.360> And

3466
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:19,520
do just kind of have to build it up. And

3467
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,750
do just kind of have to build it up. And
the<01:15:19.679> more<01:15:19.920> solid<01:15:20.400> I<01:15:20.560> I<01:15:20.880> think<01:15:21.040> Mark's<01:15:21.520> main

3468
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:21,760
the more solid I I think Mark's main

3469
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,110
the more solid I I think Mark's main
council<01:15:22.080> to<01:15:22.239> us<01:15:22.320> when<01:15:22.480> we<01:15:22.640> were<01:15:22.719> starting<01:15:22.880> was

3470
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:23,120
council to us when we were starting was

3471
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,750
council to us when we were starting was
like<01:15:23.440> the<01:15:23.760> more<01:15:24.159> solid<01:15:24.719> that<01:15:24.960> work<01:15:25.199> is<01:15:25.440> at<01:15:25.600> the

3472
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:25,760
like the more solid that work is at the

3473
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,709
like the more solid that work is at the
start,<01:15:26.560> the<01:15:26.800> the<01:15:27.199> easier<01:15:27.520> it<01:15:27.679> will<01:15:27.920> be.<01:15:28.239> It<01:15:28.480> you

3474
01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:28,719
start, the the easier it will be. It you

3475
01:15:28,719 --> 01:15:31,350
start, the the easier it will be. It you
don't<01:15:28.880> want<01:15:28.960> to<01:15:29.120> have<01:15:29.280> just<01:15:29.719> like<01:15:30.719> a<01:15:31.040> small

3476
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:31,360
don't want to have just like a small

3477
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,590
don't want to have just like a small
percentage<01:15:31.760> of<01:15:32.000> your<01:15:32.239> folks<01:15:32.960> ready<01:15:33.199> to<01:15:33.360> go

3478
01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:33,600
percentage of your folks ready to go

3479
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,430
percentage of your folks ready to go
rare<01:15:33.840> and<01:15:34.080> to<01:15:34.159> go<01:15:34.320> and<01:15:34.480> then<01:15:34.719> try<01:15:34.880> to<01:15:35.040> hold<01:15:35.199> a

3480
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:35,440
rare and to go and then try to hold a

3481
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:37,950
rare and to go and then try to hold a
vote.<01:15:36.080> You<01:15:36.400> want<01:15:36.480> to<01:15:36.640> make<01:15:36.800> sure<01:15:36.960> you<01:15:37.199> have<01:15:37.440> got

3482
01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:37,960
vote. You want to make sure you have got

3483
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,550
vote. You want to make sure you have got
like<01:15:38.960> threequarters<01:15:39.600> of<01:15:39.679> your<01:15:39.840> people<01:15:40.159> locked

3484
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:40,560
like threequarters of your people locked

3485
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,590
like threequarters of your people locked
in<01:15:41.199> and<01:15:41.520> ready<01:15:41.760> to<01:15:41.920> vote.<01:15:42.320> Yes.<01:15:42.800> And<01:15:43.040> then<01:15:43.360> you

3486
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:43,600
in and ready to vote. Yes. And then you

3487
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,310
in and ready to vote. Yes. And then you
have<01:15:44.000> leeway<01:15:44.560> to<01:15:45.120> gain<01:15:45.440> or<01:15:45.600> lose<01:15:45.920> depending<01:15:46.159> on

3488
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:46,320
have leeway to gain or lose depending on

3489
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,550
have leeway to gain or lose depending on
how<01:15:46.560> management<01:15:47.040> treats<01:15:47.440> you.<01:15:48.080> But<01:15:48.239> yeah,<01:15:48.400> you

3490
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:48,560
how management treats you. But yeah, you

3491
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,830
how management treats you. But yeah, you
you<01:15:48.880> want<01:15:48.960> to<01:15:49.040> make<01:15:49.120> sure<01:15:49.280> you're<01:15:49.360> having<01:15:49.679> and

3492
01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:49,840
you want to make sure you're having and

3493
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,870
you want to make sure you're having and
then<01:15:50.000> just<01:15:50.360> offsite.<01:15:51.360> Uh<01:15:52.159> a<01:15:52.320> great<01:15:52.560> place<01:15:52.719> to

3494
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:52,880
then just offsite. Uh a great place to

3495
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,830
then just offsite. Uh a great place to
organize<01:15:53.199> is<01:15:53.440> the<01:15:53.600> union<01:15:53.920> bar,<01:15:54.640> uh<01:15:54.880> I<01:15:55.120> found.

3496
01:15:55,830 --> 01:15:55,840
organize is the union bar, uh I found.

3497
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,669
organize is the union bar, uh I found.
But<01:15:56.159> if<01:15:56.480> that's<01:15:56.640> not<01:15:56.880> your<01:15:57.120> thing,<01:15:57.440> that's

3498
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:57,679
But if that's not your thing, that's

3499
01:15:57,679 --> 01:15:59,750
But if that's not your thing, that's
fine.<01:15:58.080> Coffee<01:15:58.320> shops,<01:15:58.800> library,<01:15:59.360> wherever

3500
01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:59,760
fine. Coffee shops, library, wherever

3501
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,709
fine. Coffee shops, library, wherever
you<01:16:00.000> want<01:16:00.159> to<01:16:00.719> hang<01:16:00.960> out,<01:16:01.199> but<01:16:01.760> offsite<01:16:02.400> little

3502
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:02,719
you want to hang out, but offsite little

3503
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:05,030
you want to hang out, but offsite little
things<01:16:02.960> like<01:16:03.120> that<01:16:03.679> and<01:16:04.000> just<01:16:04.239> kind<01:16:04.480> of<01:16:04.560> like

3504
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:05,040
things like that and just kind of like

3505
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,390
things like that and just kind of like
going<01:16:05.360> over<01:16:05.600> materials<01:16:05.920> and<01:16:06.080> stuff.<01:16:06.239> And

3506
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:06,400
going over materials and stuff. And

3507
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,830
going over materials and stuff. And
there<01:16:06.560> are<01:16:06.719> organizations<01:16:07.199> that<01:16:07.440> could<01:16:07.600> help

3508
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:07,840
there are organizations that could help

3509
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,229
there are organizations that could help
or<01:16:08.800> uh<01:16:08.960> you<01:16:09.120> know<01:16:09.280> that<01:16:09.600> could<01:16:09.840> provide<01:16:10.080> for

3510
01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:10,239
or uh you know that could provide for

3511
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:12,149
or uh you know that could provide for
that<01:16:10.400> as<01:16:10.560> well.<01:16:11.120> like<01:16:11.280> the<01:16:11.440> Western<01:16:11.760> Montana

3512
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:12,159
that as well. like the Western Montana

3513
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:13,430
that as well. like the Western Montana
Workers<01:16:12.400> Alliance.<01:16:12.640> Well,<01:16:12.880> Western<01:16:13.120> Montana

3514
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:13,440
Workers Alliance. Well, Western Montana

3515
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,750
Workers Alliance. Well, Western Montana
Workers<01:16:13.760> Alliance<01:16:14.159> has<01:16:14.400> been<01:16:14.640> Yeah.<01:16:14.960> pivotal.

3516
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:15,760
Workers Alliance has been Yeah. pivotal.

3517
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,350
Workers Alliance has been Yeah. pivotal.
So,<01:16:16.239> yeah,<01:16:16.400> and<01:16:16.560> I<01:16:16.719> was<01:16:16.880> going<01:16:16.960> to<01:16:17.040> say<01:16:17.120> the

3518
01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:17,360
So, yeah, and I was going to say the

3519
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,430
So, yeah, and I was going to say the
Western<01:16:17.679> Montana<01:16:18.320> uh<01:16:18.400> Workers<01:16:18.880> Alliance

3520
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:19,440
Western Montana uh Workers Alliance

3521
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:22,790
Western Montana uh Workers Alliance
helps<01:16:20.159> people<01:16:20.719> get<01:16:20.960> trained<01:16:21.520> in<01:16:22.080> advice<01:16:22.480> and

3522
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:22,800
helps people get trained in advice and

3523
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,669
helps people get trained in advice and
all<01:16:22.960> that<01:16:23.120> kind<01:16:23.280> of<01:16:23.440> stuff.<01:16:24.320> And<01:16:24.800> we<01:16:25.199> actually

3524
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:25,679
all that kind of stuff. And we actually

3525
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:30,630
all that kind of stuff. And we actually
are<01:16:26.239> engaged<01:16:26.800> right<01:16:27.040> now<01:16:27.360> with<01:16:28.640> uh<01:16:29.520> two,<01:16:30.080> one

3526
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:30,640
are engaged right now with uh two, one

3527
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,550
are engaged right now with uh two, one
more<01:16:31.040> serious<01:16:31.440> than<01:16:31.600> the<01:16:31.840> other,<01:16:32.000> but<01:16:32.320> two

3528
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:32,560
more serious than the other, but two

3529
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,830
more serious than the other, but two
nonprofits<01:16:33.199> in<01:16:33.440> town<01:16:34.719> um<01:16:34.880> to<01:16:35.199> try<01:16:35.280> to<01:16:35.440> get<01:16:35.600> them

3530
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:35,840
nonprofits in town um to try to get them

3531
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,590
nonprofits in town um to try to get them
organized.<01:16:36.400> And<01:16:36.560> I<01:16:36.800> would<01:16:36.960> refer<01:16:37.280> you<01:16:37.440> to

3532
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:37,600
organized. And I would refer you to

3533
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,350
organized. And I would refer you to
Rachel<01:16:38.159> if<01:16:38.400> you<01:16:38.480> want<01:16:38.560> to<01:16:38.640> talk<01:16:38.800> with<01:16:38.960> Rachel

3534
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:39,360
Rachel if you want to talk with Rachel

3535
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,430
Rachel if you want to talk with Rachel
afterwards.<01:16:39.840> She<01:16:40.159> can<01:16:40.560> she<01:16:40.880> can<01:16:41.040> give<01:16:41.120> you<01:16:41.280> the

3536
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:41,440
afterwards. She can she can give you the

3537
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:44,390
afterwards. She can she can give you the
skinny<01:16:41.840> on<01:16:42.440> that.<01:16:43.440> All<01:16:43.520> right.<01:16:43.760> And<01:16:44.000> Robbie,

3538
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:44,400
skinny on that. All right. And Robbie,

3539
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,189
skinny on that. All right. And Robbie,
you're<01:16:44.640> next.

3540
01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:47,199
you're next.

3541
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:49,189
you're next.
So,<01:16:47.440> this<01:16:47.600> is<01:16:47.760> perhaps<01:16:48.159> uh<01:16:48.320> too<01:16:48.560> geekish<01:16:48.960> a

3542
01:16:49,189 --> 01:16:49,199
So, this is perhaps uh too geekish a

3543
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:50,950
So, this is perhaps uh too geekish a
question,<01:16:49.760> but<01:16:49.920> I<01:16:50.080> think<01:16:50.400> u<01:16:50.560> I<01:16:50.719> think<01:16:50.800> your

3544
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:50,960
question, but I think u I think your

3545
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,950
question, but I think u I think your
name<01:16:51.120> is<01:16:51.520> for<01:16:51.679> Alyssa,<01:16:52.000> I<01:16:52.159> think<01:16:52.239> your<01:16:52.400> name.

3546
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:52,960
name is for Alyssa, I think your name.

3547
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,750
name is for Alyssa, I think your name.
Um<01:16:53.199> Melissa,<01:16:53.760> you'd<01:16:54.080> said<01:16:54.159> you<01:16:54.400> had<01:16:54.880> um<01:16:55.600> uh

3548
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:55,760
Um Melissa, you'd said you had um uh

3549
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,070
Um Melissa, you'd said you had um uh
worked<01:16:56.000> as<01:16:56.159> a<01:16:56.320> lawyer<01:16:56.640> for<01:16:56.800> the<01:16:57.120> um<01:16:57.440> railroad

3550
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:58,080
worked as a lawyer for the um railroad

3551
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,229
worked as a lawyer for the um railroad
workers<01:16:58.880> unions.<01:16:59.440> And<01:16:59.760> it's<01:17:00.000> my

3552
01:17:00,229 --> 01:17:00,239
workers unions. And it's my

3553
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:01,430
workers unions. And it's my
understanding<01:17:00.560> that<01:17:00.800> they're<01:17:00.960> covered<01:17:01.280> under

3554
01:17:01,430 --> 01:17:01,440
understanding that they're covered under

3555
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:03,270
understanding that they're covered under
a<01:17:01.600> whole<01:17:01.760> different<01:17:01.920> set<01:17:02.080> of<01:17:02.239> labor<01:17:02.560> law<01:17:03.040> than

3556
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:03,280
a whole different set of labor law than

3557
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,430
a whole different set of labor law than
everybody<01:17:03.679> else's.<01:17:04.640> Could<01:17:04.880> you<01:17:05.199> give

3558
01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:05,440
everybody else's. Could you give

3559
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:08,149
everybody else's. Could you give
something<01:17:05.760> of<01:17:06.000> history<01:17:06.320> about<01:17:06.560> why<01:17:06.800> that<01:17:07.040> is?

3560
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:08,159
something of history about why that is?

3561
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:10,229
something of history about why that is?
Oh.<01:17:08.640> Um,<01:17:09.199> so<01:17:09.360> they're<01:17:09.679> covered<01:17:09.920> by<01:17:10.080> the

3562
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:10,239
Oh. Um, so they're covered by the

3563
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:12,910
Oh. Um, so they're covered by the
Railway<01:17:10.640> Labor<01:17:11.040> Act,<01:17:11.600> and<01:17:11.920> it's<01:17:12.080> it's

3564
01:17:12,910 --> 01:17:12,920
Railway Labor Act, and it's it's

3565
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,310
Railway Labor Act, and it's it's
actually<01:17:13.920> very<01:17:14.320> important<01:17:14.640> that<01:17:14.960> they<01:17:15.320> are.

3566
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:16,320
actually very important that they are.

3567
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,189
actually very important that they are.
Um,<01:17:17.280> part<01:17:17.520> of<01:17:17.600> it<01:17:17.840> was<01:17:18.080> just<01:17:18.320> the<01:17:18.560> significance

3568
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:19,199
Um, part of it was just the significance

3569
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:26,470
Um, part of it was just the significance
of<01:17:20.040> rail<01:17:21.159> traffic.<01:17:22.280> Um,<01:17:23.280> but<01:17:23.920> as<01:17:24.400> a<01:17:25.159> union,<01:17:26.159> it

3570
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:26,480
of rail traffic. Um, but as a union, it

3571
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:28,510
of rail traffic. Um, but as a union, it

3572
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:27,280


3573
01:17:28,510 --> 01:17:28,520
gave them a

3574
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,750
gave them a
special,<01:17:29.520> you<01:17:29.760> go<01:17:29.920> straight<01:17:30.159> to<01:17:30.320> federal

3575
01:17:30,750 --> 01:17:30,760
special, you go straight to federal

3576
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,910
special, you go straight to federal
court.<01:17:31.760> Um,<01:17:32.320> you<01:17:32.640> don't<01:17:32.960> have<01:17:33.120> to<01:17:33.360> go<01:17:33.679> through

3577
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:33,920
court. Um, you don't have to go through

3578
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,149
court. Um, you don't have to go through
the<01:17:34.159> NLRB.

3579
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:36,159
the NLRB.

3580
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:39,350
the NLRB.
Um,<01:17:36.880> what's<01:17:37.199> the<01:17:37.360> NLR?<01:17:38.320> Uh,<01:17:38.640> National<01:17:38.960> Labor

3581
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:39,360
Um, what's the NLR? Uh, National Labor

3582
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,510
Um, what's the NLR? Uh, National Labor
Relations<01:17:39.840> Board.<01:17:40.400> So,<01:17:40.719> under<01:17:40.960> the<01:17:41.120> National

3583
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:41,520
Relations Board. So, under the National

3584
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,390
Relations Board. So, under the National
Labor<01:17:41.840> Relations<01:17:42.400> Act,<01:17:43.120> it<01:17:43.440> actually<01:17:44.000> it

3585
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:44,400
Labor Relations Act, it actually it

3586
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,950
Labor Relations Act, it actually it
started<01:17:44.800> out<01:17:45.120> as<01:17:45.360> a<01:17:45.600> great<01:17:45.920> thing.<01:17:46.560> Uh,<01:17:46.800> the

3587
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:46,960
started out as a great thing. Uh, the

3588
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,510
started out as a great thing. Uh, the
Railway<01:17:47.440> Labor<01:17:47.840> Act<01:17:48.560> had<01:17:48.880> some<01:17:49.199> great

3589
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:49,520
Railway Labor Act had some great

3590
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,950
Railway Labor Act had some great
protections.<01:17:50.320> It<01:17:50.640> allowed<01:17:51.920> uh<01:17:52.239> unions<01:17:52.719> to

3591
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:52,960
protections. It allowed uh unions to

3592
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,030
protections. It allowed uh unions to
strike.<01:17:53.520> You'd<01:17:53.760> go<01:17:54.000> straight<01:17:54.239> into<01:17:54.560> federal

3593
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:55,040
strike. You'd go straight into federal

3594
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,390
strike. You'd go straight into federal
court.<01:17:55.920> Um,<01:17:56.560> they<01:17:57.199> would<01:17:57.520> work<01:17:57.760> together.<01:17:58.239> All

3595
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:58,400
court. Um, they would work together. All

3596
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,870
court. Um, they would work together. All
the<01:17:58.640> unions<01:17:59.120> would<01:17:59.360> go<01:17:59.600> out<01:17:59.920> on<01:18:00.239> strike

3597
01:18:01,870 --> 01:18:01,880
the unions would go out on strike

3598
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,470
the unions would go out on strike
simultaneously.<01:18:02.960> and<01:18:03.120> and<01:18:03.520> I<01:18:03.840> represented

3599
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:04,480
simultaneously. and and I represented

3600
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:09,790
simultaneously. and and I represented
them<01:18:04.960> in<01:18:05.280> the<01:18:05.600> mid<01:18:06.000> 90s<01:18:07.440> um<01:18:07.679> late<01:18:08.120> 90s

3601
01:18:09,790 --> 01:18:09,800
them in the mid 90s um late 90s

3602
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,229
them in the mid 90s um late 90s
and<01:18:10.800> it<01:18:11.040> was<01:18:11.120> it<01:18:11.360> was<01:18:11.520> very<01:18:11.679> fun.<01:18:12.000> It<01:18:12.159> was

3603
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:12,239
and it was it was very fun. It was

3604
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:15,870
and it was it was very fun. It was
exciting.<01:18:12.560> It<01:18:12.719> was<01:18:12.880> a<01:18:13.040> different<01:18:13.719> time.<01:18:14.719> And

3605
01:18:15,870 --> 01:18:15,880
exciting. It was a different time. And

3606
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,510
exciting. It was a different time. And
um<01:18:16.880> they<01:18:17.280> successfully<01:18:18.159> would<01:18:18.480> walk<01:18:18.800> out,<01:18:19.360> you

3607
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:19,520
um they successfully would walk out, you

3608
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,270
um they successfully would walk out, you
know,<01:18:19.600> it<01:18:19.840> was<01:18:19.920> a<01:18:20.400> they'd<01:18:20.719> get<01:18:20.880> it<01:18:21.040> all

3609
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:21,280
know, it was a they'd get it all

3610
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,350
know, it was a they'd get it all
together.<01:18:21.760> They'd<01:18:22.080> get<01:18:22.159> it<01:18:22.400> all<01:18:22.560> planned<01:18:23.120> and

3611
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:23,360
together. They'd get it all planned and

3612
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,590
together. They'd get it all planned and
then<01:18:23.520> they'd<01:18:23.840> go<01:18:24.000> out<01:18:24.640> and<01:18:24.880> it<01:18:25.040> was<01:18:25.199> then<01:18:25.440> just

3613
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:25,600
then they'd go out and it was then just

3614
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,270
then they'd go out and it was then just
like<01:18:25.760> a<01:18:25.920> race<01:18:26.159> to<01:18:26.320> the<01:18:26.520> courthouse.<01:18:27.880> Um<01:18:28.880> and<01:18:29.120> it

3615
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:29,280
like a race to the courthouse. Um and it

3616
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,630
like a race to the courthouse. Um and it
was<01:18:29.440> fun.<01:18:30.400> um<01:18:30.760> until<01:18:31.760> the<01:18:32.080> courts<01:18:32.560> began<01:18:33.040> to

3617
01:18:33,630 --> 01:18:33,640
was fun. um until the courts began to

3618
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:39,149
was fun. um until the courts began to
say<01:18:34.640> that<01:18:35.520> the<01:18:35.920> Interstate<01:18:36.560> Commerce<01:18:37.480> Act

3619
01:18:39,149 --> 01:18:39,159
say that the Interstate Commerce Act

3620
01:18:39,159 --> 01:18:43,030
say that the Interstate Commerce Act
overrode<01:18:40.159> the<01:18:40.400> Railway<01:18:40.800> Labor<01:18:41.199> Act.<01:18:41.920> So<01:18:42.800> when

3621
01:18:43,030 --> 01:18:43,040
overrode the Railway Labor Act. So when

3622
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,030
overrode the Railway Labor Act. So when
I<01:18:43.280> started<01:18:43.600> practicing,<01:18:44.159> they<01:18:44.400> were<01:18:44.560> equal

3623
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:45,040
I started practicing, they were equal

3624
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,669
I started practicing, they were equal
and<01:18:45.280> we<01:18:45.520> would<01:18:45.679> argue<01:18:46.159> about<01:18:47.040> whether<01:18:47.440> they

3625
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:47,679
and we would argue about whether they

3626
01:18:47,679 --> 01:18:50,310
and we would argue about whether they
had<01:18:47.760> a<01:18:47.920> right<01:18:48.080> to<01:18:48.320> strike.<01:18:48.960> And<01:18:49.199> by<01:18:49.440> the<01:18:49.679> end<01:18:50.080> of

3627
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:50,320
had a right to strike. And by the end of

3628
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,709
had a right to strike. And by the end of
my<01:18:50.640> practice,<01:18:51.040> they<01:18:51.280> would<01:18:51.440> say,<01:18:51.719> "Listen,

3629
01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:52,719
my practice, they would say, "Listen,

3630
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:54,149
my practice, they would say, "Listen,
that's<01:18:53.040> interfering<01:18:53.520> with<01:18:53.679> interstate

3631
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:54,159
that's interfering with interstate

3632
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,430
that's interfering with interstate
commerce.<01:18:54.560> You<01:18:54.719> can't<01:18:54.880> do<01:18:55.040> that."

3633
01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:56,440
commerce. You can't do that."

3634
01:18:56,440 --> 01:18:58,950
commerce. You can't do that."
Well,<01:18:57.440> obviously<01:18:57.840> it's<01:18:58.159> interfering<01:18:58.719> with

3635
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:58,960
Well, obviously it's interfering with

3636
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,110
Well, obviously it's interfering with
interstate<01:18:59.600> commerce.<01:19:00.239> That's<01:19:00.480> why<01:19:00.800> they're

3637
01:19:01,110 --> 01:19:01,120
interstate commerce. That's why they're

3638
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,390
interstate commerce. That's why they're
doing<01:19:01.440> it.

3639
01:19:03,390 --> 01:19:03,400
doing it.

3640
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,950
doing it.
Um,<01:19:04.400> but<01:19:05.360> but<01:19:05.760> this<01:19:06.000> was<01:19:06.159> the<01:19:06.400> shift<01:19:06.800> the

3641
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:06,960
Um, but but this was the shift the

3642
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,950
Um, but but this was the shift the
Reagan<01:19:07.560> years.<01:19:08.560> Pat<01:19:09.040> Co.<01:19:09.840> Oh,<01:19:10.000> sorry.<01:19:10.719> This

3643
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:10,960
Reagan years. Pat Co. Oh, sorry. This

3644
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,950
Reagan years. Pat Co. Oh, sorry. This
was<01:19:11.040> the<01:19:11.280> shift<01:19:11.520> of<01:19:11.679> the<01:19:11.760> Reagan<01:19:12.239> years.<01:19:12.560> Pat

3645
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:12,960
was the shift of the Reagan years. Pat

3646
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,070
was the shift of the Reagan years. Pat
Co.,<01:19:13.760> you<01:19:13.920> know,<01:19:14.080> we<01:19:14.239> just<01:19:14.480> saw<01:19:14.719> a<01:19:15.159> change

3647
01:19:17,070 --> 01:19:17,080
Co., you know, we just saw a change

3648
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,430
Co., you know, we just saw a change
um<01:19:18.080> in<01:19:18.320> the<01:19:18.480> court<01:19:18.800> system<01:19:19.520> of<01:19:19.920> how<01:19:20.719> how<01:19:21.199> the

3649
01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:21,440
um in the court system of how how the

3650
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:23,750
um in the court system of how how the
right<01:19:21.679> to<01:19:21.920> strike,<01:19:22.400> the<01:19:22.640> right<01:19:22.800> to<01:19:23.040> organize,

3651
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:23,760
right to strike, the right to organize,

3652
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,350
right to strike, the right to organize,
how<01:19:24.000> that<01:19:24.239> was<01:19:24.400> viewed.

3653
01:19:26,350 --> 01:19:26,360
how that was viewed.

3654
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:30,550
how that was viewed.
Um<01:19:27.360> but<01:19:27.520> the<01:19:27.760> railway<01:19:28.560> unions<01:19:29.280> were<01:19:29.840> able<01:19:30.239> to

3655
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:30,560
Um but the railway unions were able to

3656
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,510
Um but the railway unions were able to
and<01:19:30.880> are<01:19:31.120> able<01:19:31.520> they're<01:19:31.760> they're<01:19:32.159> very

3657
01:19:32,510 --> 01:19:32,520
and are able they're they're very

3658
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:37,030
and are able they're they're very
unified<01:19:33.520> across<01:19:34.239> all<01:19:34.800> of<01:19:35.679> the<01:19:35.920> fields<01:19:36.800> and

3659
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:37,040
unified across all of the fields and

3660
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,910
unified across all of the fields and
that<01:19:37.199> gives<01:19:37.440> them<01:19:37.600> a<01:19:37.840> lot<01:19:37.920> of<01:19:38.080> strength.

3661
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:39,920
that gives them a lot of strength.

3662
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,430
that gives them a lot of strength.
I<01:19:40.159> I<01:19:40.560> might<01:19:40.719> add<01:19:41.120> too<01:19:41.760> um<01:19:42.480> I<01:19:42.640> I<01:19:42.880> represented

3663
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:43,440
I I might add too um I I represented

3664
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:45,669
I I might add too um I I represented
some<01:19:43.600> workers<01:19:43.920> who<01:19:44.640> also<01:19:44.960> covered<01:19:45.280> under<01:19:45.520> the

3665
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:45,679
some workers who also covered under the

3666
01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:48,950
some workers who also covered under the
railway<01:19:46.000> act,<01:19:46.239> but<01:19:46.480> they<01:19:46.640> were<01:19:47.280> airport<01:19:48.640> uh

3667
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:48,960
railway act, but they were airport uh

3668
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,070
railway act, but they were airport uh
caterers,<01:19:49.679> right?<01:19:49.920> So<01:19:50.080> they<01:19:50.719> the<01:19:51.040> big<01:19:51.280> silver

3669
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:52,080
caterers, right? So they the big silver

3670
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,790
caterers, right? So they the big silver
sky<01:19:52.400> chefs,<01:19:52.719> the<01:19:52.880> big<01:19:53.040> silver<01:19:54.000> boxes<01:19:54.400> that

3671
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:54,800
sky chefs, the big silver boxes that

3672
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,709
sky chefs, the big silver boxes that
could<01:19:54.960> pull<01:19:55.360> down,<01:19:55.840> you<01:19:56.000> know,<01:19:56.080> the<01:19:56.320> middle<01:19:56.560> of

3673
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:56,719
could pull down, you know, the middle of

3674
01:19:56,719 --> 01:19:58,669
could pull down, you know, the middle of
the<01:19:57.679> uh

3675
01:19:58,669 --> 01:19:58,679
the uh

3676
01:19:58,679 --> 01:20:00,630
the uh
airplane.<01:19:59.679> You<01:19:59.840> know,<01:20:00.000> I<01:20:00.159> worked<01:20:00.400> with

3677
01:20:00,630 --> 01:20:00,640
airplane. You know, I worked with

3678
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,430
airplane. You know, I worked with
people,<01:20:01.199> organized<01:20:01.840> people<01:20:02.159> who<01:20:02.880> cook<01:20:03.120> that

3679
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:03,440
people, organized people who cook that

3680
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,669
people, organized people who cook that
food,<01:20:04.000> put<01:20:04.159> it<01:20:04.320> together,<01:20:04.880> packed<01:20:05.199> that<01:20:05.360> up,

3681
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:05,679
food, put it together, packed that up,

3682
01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:08,149
food, put it together, packed that up,
packed<01:20:05.920> it<01:20:06.080> onto<01:20:06.320> the<01:20:06.560> plane.<01:20:07.440> that<01:20:07.679> also<01:20:07.920> was

3683
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:08,159
packed it onto the plane. that also was

3684
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:09,990
packed it onto the plane. that also was
under<01:20:08.400> the<01:20:08.560> railway<01:20:08.960> act<01:20:09.360> and<01:20:09.600> I<01:20:09.760> don't<01:20:09.920> know

3685
01:20:09,990 --> 01:20:10,000
under the railway act and I don't know

3686
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,550
under the railway act and I don't know
the<01:20:10.239> history<01:20:10.480> of<01:20:10.640> that<01:20:10.960> but<01:20:11.840> um<01:20:12.159> the<01:20:12.400> other

3687
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:12,560
the history of that but um the other

3688
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,350
the history of that but um the other
thing<01:20:12.640> I<01:20:12.880> want<01:20:12.960> to<01:20:13.120> say<01:20:13.360> too<01:20:13.600> is<01:20:13.920> that<01:20:14.480> uh<01:20:15.120> one

3689
01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:15,360
thing I want to say too is that uh one

3690
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,910
thing I want to say too is that uh one
thing<01:20:15.520> that<01:20:16.159> um<01:20:16.480> I<01:20:16.719> I've<01:20:17.320> learned<01:20:18.320> from<01:20:19.120> and<01:20:19.679> it

3691
01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:19,920
thing that um I I've learned from and it

3692
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,070
thing that um I I've learned from and it
was<01:20:20.000> a<01:20:20.239> teacher<01:20:20.640> in<01:20:20.880> West<01:20:21.120> Virginia<01:20:21.760> actually

3693
01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:22,080
was a teacher in West Virginia actually

3694
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,990
was a teacher in West Virginia actually
that<01:20:22.320> said<01:20:22.480> this<01:20:22.719> and<01:20:22.880> I'm<01:20:23.040> sure<01:20:23.440> other<01:20:23.760> people

3695
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:24,000
that said this and I'm sure other people

3696
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,149
that said this and I'm sure other people
have<01:20:24.239> said<01:20:24.400> this<01:20:24.560> before<01:20:25.280> but<01:20:25.520> the<01:20:25.679> whole<01:20:25.920> red

3697
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:26,159
have said this before but the whole red

3698
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:27,990
have said this before but the whole red
fored<01:20:26.640> thing<01:20:26.800> that<01:20:27.040> happened<01:20:27.280> about<01:20:27.520> 10<01:20:27.760> years

3699
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:28,000
fored thing that happened about 10 years

3700
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,430
fored thing that happened about 10 years
ago<01:20:29.199> um<01:20:29.840> someone<01:20:30.159> asked<01:20:30.480> her<01:20:30.719> because<01:20:30.960> in<01:20:31.199> West

3701
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:31,440
ago um someone asked her because in West

3702
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:34,390
ago um someone asked her because in West
Virginia<01:20:32.000> it<01:20:32.239> was<01:20:32.640> illegal<01:20:33.280> for<01:20:33.840> teachers<01:20:34.239> to

3703
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:34,400
Virginia it was illegal for teachers to

3704
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,750
Virginia it was illegal for teachers to
go<01:20:34.480> on<01:20:34.719> strike.<01:20:35.520> Okay.<01:20:36.640> Yeah.<01:20:37.040> And<01:20:37.280> in<01:20:37.520> a<01:20:37.679> lot

3705
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:37,760
go on strike. Okay. Yeah. And in a lot

3706
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,669
go on strike. Okay. Yeah. And in a lot
of<01:20:37.920> places,<01:20:38.239> public<01:20:38.560> employees<01:20:39.040> can't<01:20:39.280> go<01:20:39.440> on

3707
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:39,679
of places, public employees can't go on

3708
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:42,550
of places, public employees can't go on
strike,<01:20:40.080> right?<01:20:40.719> Um,<01:20:41.360> can<01:20:41.760> federal<01:20:42.080> employees

3709
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:42,560
strike, right? Um, can federal employees

3710
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,709
strike, right? Um, can federal employees
can't<01:20:42.719> go<01:20:42.880> on<01:20:43.040> strike?<01:20:43.520> Nope.<01:20:44.239> Uh,<01:20:44.560> not

3711
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:44,719
can't go on strike? Nope. Uh, not

3712
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:47,910
can't go on strike? Nope. Uh, not
legally,<01:20:45.199> anyway.<01:20:45.760> But<01:20:46.080> what<01:20:46.320> she<01:20:46.640> said<01:20:47.199> was,

3713
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:47,920
legally, anyway. But what she said was,

3714
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,910
legally, anyway. But what she said was,
there's<01:20:48.239> no<01:20:48.480> such<01:20:48.800> thing<01:20:48.960> as<01:20:49.120> an<01:20:49.520> illegal

3715
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:49,920
there's no such thing as an illegal

3716
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,630
there's no such thing as an illegal
strike,<01:20:50.880> only<01:20:51.199> an<01:20:51.520> unsuccessful

3717
01:20:53,630 --> 01:20:53,640
strike, only an unsuccessful

3718
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,550
strike, only an unsuccessful
one.<01:20:54.640> And<01:20:54.880> if<01:20:55.120> you<01:20:55.280> understand<01:20:55.760> how<01:20:56.080> strikes

3719
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:56,560
one. And if you understand how strikes

3720
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,270
one. And if you understand how strikes
work,<01:20:57.280> it<01:20:57.520> makes<01:20:57.760> a<01:20:57.920> lot<01:20:58.080> of<01:20:58.239> sense,<01:20:58.800> okay?

3721
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:59,280
work, it makes a lot of sense, okay?

3722
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,270
work, it makes a lot of sense, okay?
because<01:20:59.760> one<01:21:00.000> of<01:21:00.080> the<01:21:00.239> demands<01:21:00.560> you<01:21:00.880> have<01:21:01.040> to

3723
01:21:01,270 --> 01:21:01,280
because one of the demands you have to

3724
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,910
because one of the demands you have to
go<01:21:01.440> back<01:21:01.600> to<01:21:01.840> work<01:21:02.560> is<01:21:02.800> that<01:21:03.360> there's<01:21:03.760> going<01:21:03.840> to

3725
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:03,920
go back to work is that there's going to

3726
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,990
go back to work is that there's going to
be<01:21:04.080> no<01:21:04.320> punishment<01:21:04.800> for<01:21:05.120> people<01:21:05.440> walking<01:21:05.840> out

3727
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:06,000
be no punishment for people walking out

3728
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,669
be no punishment for people walking out
on<01:21:06.239> strike.<01:21:07.000> Okay,<01:21:08.000> one<01:21:08.239> last<01:21:08.560> question.<01:21:09.440> Oh,

3729
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:09,679
on strike. Okay, one last question. Oh,

3730
01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:17,270
on strike. Okay, one last question. Oh,

3731
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:10,719


3732
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:17,280


3733
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,870
thank<01:21:17.440> you<01:21:17.600> so<01:21:17.760> much<01:21:17.920> for<01:21:18.080> being<01:21:18.320> here<01:21:18.560> and

3734
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:18,880
thank you so much for being here and

3735
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,790
thank you so much for being here and
thank<01:21:19.040> you<01:21:19.199> everyone<01:21:19.520> for<01:21:19.840> coming.<01:21:20.239> Um,<01:21:20.560> just

3736
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:20,800
thank you everyone for coming. Um, just

3737
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,470
thank you everyone for coming. Um, just
wanted<01:21:20.960> to<01:21:21.040> point<01:21:21.199> out<01:21:21.360> the<01:21:21.520> Western<01:21:21.840> Montana

3738
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:22,480
wanted to point out the Western Montana

3739
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,709
wanted to point out the Western Montana
Democratic<01:21:23.040> Socialist<01:21:23.520> of<01:21:23.600> America<01:21:24.080> Chapter

3740
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:24,719
Democratic Socialist of America Chapter

3741
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:26,709
Democratic Socialist of America Chapter
Business<01:21:25.120> Meeting<01:21:25.440> is<01:21:25.679> going<01:21:25.760> to<01:21:25.840> be<01:21:26.000> next

3742
01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:26,719
Business Meeting is going to be next

3743
01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:29,510
Business Meeting is going to be next
Saturday<01:21:27.199> the<01:21:27.440> 10th,<01:21:28.480> um,<01:21:28.640> at,<01:21:28.960> I<01:21:29.199> believe,

3744
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:29,520
Saturday the 10th, um, at, I believe,

3745
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,149
Saturday the 10th, um, at, I believe,
11:00<01:21:29.920> a.m.<01:21:30.239> at<01:21:30.480> JRPC,<01:21:31.280> the<01:21:31.440> Janette<01:21:31.760> Rankin

3746
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:32,159
11:00 a.m. at JRPC, the Janette Rankin

3747
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:33,590
11:00 a.m. at JRPC, the Janette Rankin
Peace<01:21:32.400> Center.<01:21:32.800> It<01:21:32.960> would<01:21:33.120> really<01:21:33.280> be<01:21:33.440> great

3748
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:33,600
Peace Center. It would really be great

3749
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,110
Peace Center. It would really be great
to<01:21:33.760> convert<01:21:34.000> some<01:21:34.159> of<01:21:34.320> this<01:21:34.480> energy<01:21:34.719> we<01:21:34.960> have

3750
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:35,120
to convert some of this energy we have

3751
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,350
to convert some of this energy we have
here<01:21:35.679> into,<01:21:36.320> um,<01:21:36.480> a<01:21:36.719> strong<01:21:36.960> workers

3752
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:37,360
here into, um, a strong workers

3753
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,750
here into, um, a strong workers
movement.<01:21:38.320> Um,<01:21:38.640> I<01:21:38.880> also<01:21:39.120> wanted<01:21:39.280> to<01:21:39.440> point<01:21:39.600> out

3754
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:39,760
movement. Um, I also wanted to point out

3755
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,070
movement. Um, I also wanted to point out
that<01:21:40.320> uh,<01:21:40.560> Montana<01:21:41.040> for<01:21:41.199> Palestine<01:21:41.840> are

3756
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:42,080
that uh, Montana for Palestine are

3757
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,310
that uh, Montana for Palestine are
raising<01:21:42.480> money<01:21:42.800> for<01:21:43.199> families<01:21:43.520> in<01:21:43.760> Gaza<01:21:44.159> at

3758
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:44,320
raising money for families in Gaza at

3759
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,790
raising money for families in Gaza at
the<01:21:44.480> back.<01:21:45.040> Um,<01:21:45.360> we're<01:21:45.600> trying<01:21:45.760> to<01:21:45.840> hit<01:21:46.159> $5,000

3760
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:46,800
the back. Um, we're trying to hit $5,000

3761
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,229
the back. Um, we're trying to hit $5,000
over<01:21:47.040> the<01:21:47.199> course<01:21:47.360> of<01:21:47.520> the<01:21:47.679> months<01:21:47.920> of<01:21:48.080> of

3762
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:48,239
over the course of the months of of

3763
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:50,149
over the course of the months of of
month<01:21:48.480> of<01:21:48.640> May.<01:21:48.880> And<01:21:49.280> so<01:21:49.520> much<01:21:49.600> of<01:21:49.679> the<01:21:49.840> work<01:21:49.920> we

3764
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:50,159
month of May. And so much of the work we

3765
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:52,550
month of May. And so much of the work we
do<01:21:50.320> organizing<01:21:51.040> as<01:21:51.280> a<01:21:51.440> working<01:21:51.760> class<01:21:52.080> is<01:21:52.320> to

3766
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:52,560
do organizing as a working class is to

3767
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,430
do organizing as a working class is to
stop<01:21:52.880> the<01:21:53.199> imperial<01:21:53.679> war<01:21:53.920> machine<01:21:54.480> that<01:21:54.880> is,

3768
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:55,440
stop the imperial war machine that is,

3769
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:58,070
stop the imperial war machine that is,
you<01:21:55.600> know,<01:21:55.760> pressing<01:21:56.159> down<01:21:56.480> on<01:21:56.880> us<01:21:57.199> as<01:21:57.840> a

3770
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:58,080
you know, pressing down on us as a

3771
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,030
you know, pressing down on us as a
society.<01:21:58.639> So<01:21:59.040> please<01:21:59.360> consider<01:21:59.719> donating.<01:22:00.719> My

3772
01:22:01,030 --> 01:22:01,040
society. So please consider donating. My

3773
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,430
society. So please consider donating. My
question<01:22:01.440> is<01:22:02.159> about<01:22:03.040> not<01:22:03.520> losing<01:22:04.199> energy<01:22:05.199> in

3774
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:05,440
question is about not losing energy in

3775
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:07,030
question is about not losing energy in
the<01:22:05.600> course<01:22:05.760> of<01:22:05.920> potentially<01:22:06.320> organiz

3776
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:07,040
the course of potentially organiz

3777
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,070
the course of potentially organiz
organizing<01:22:07.440> for<01:22:07.679> a<01:22:07.960> strike<01:22:08.960> into<01:22:09.760> the

3778
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:10,080
organizing for a strike into the

3779
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,189
organizing for a strike into the
Democratic<01:22:10.639> party.<01:22:11.840> What<01:22:12.159> happens<01:22:12.480> in<01:22:12.880> our

3780
01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:13,199
Democratic party. What happens in our

3781
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:15,830
Democratic party. What happens in our
union<01:22:13.760> as<01:22:14.000> you're<01:22:14.320> familiar<01:22:14.719> is<01:22:15.120> sorry<01:22:15.440> I'm<01:22:15.600> a

3782
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:15,840
union as you're familiar is sorry I'm a

3783
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,229
union as you're familiar is sorry I'm a
teacher<01:22:16.159> so<01:22:16.880> just<01:22:17.199> this<01:22:17.440> might<01:22:17.679> be<01:22:17.840> familiar

3784
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:18,239
teacher so just this might be familiar

3785
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:21,149
teacher so just this might be familiar
to<01:22:18.480> the<01:22:18.639> two<01:22:18.800> teachers<01:22:19.199> up<01:22:19.360> there<01:22:19.760> is<01:22:20.000> that

3786
01:22:21,149 --> 01:22:21,159
to the two teachers up there is that

3787
01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:24,629
to the two teachers up there is that
2024<01:22:22.159> all<01:22:22.400> of<01:22:22.560> the<01:22:23.120> most<01:22:23.440> of<01:22:23.600> the<01:22:24.000> union<01:22:24.320> energy

3788
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:24,639
2024 all of the most of the union energy

3789
01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:26,870
2024 all of the most of the union energy
from<01:22:24.880> what<01:22:25.040> I<01:22:25.120> was<01:22:25.280> able<01:22:25.440> to<01:22:25.520> see<01:22:26.080> went<01:22:26.320> toward

3790
01:22:26,870 --> 01:22:26,880
from what I was able to see went toward

3791
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,590
from what I was able to see went toward
electing<01:22:27.600> Democratic<01:22:28.159> party<01:22:28.480> candidates<01:22:28.960> and

3792
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:29,600
electing Democratic party candidates and

3793
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,350
electing Democratic party candidates and
uh<01:22:30.320> a<01:22:30.320> a<01:22:30.560> lot<01:22:30.639> of<01:22:30.800> work<01:22:31.040> was<01:22:31.280> spent<01:22:32.080> you<01:22:32.239> know<01:22:32.880> uh

3794
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:33,360
uh a a lot of work was spent you know uh

3795
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,229
uh a a lot of work was spent you know uh
on<01:22:33.600> John<01:22:33.840> Tester<01:22:34.719> 2025<01:22:35.440> came<01:22:35.679> around<01:22:35.920> and<01:22:36.080> it's

3796
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:36,239
on John Tester 2025 came around and it's

3797
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:37,830
on John Tester 2025 came around and it's
a<01:22:36.400> legislative<01:22:36.960> year<01:22:37.120> and<01:22:37.360> we're<01:22:37.520> beating

3798
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:37,840
a legislative year and we're beating

3799
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,830
a legislative year and we're beating
back<01:22:38.000> all<01:22:38.159> these<01:22:38.400> crazy<01:22:38.719> bills<01:22:39.040> from<01:22:39.199> Helena

3800
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:39,840
back all these crazy bills from Helena

3801
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,990
back all these crazy bills from Helena
26<01:22:40.320> is<01:22:40.560> going<01:22:40.639> to<01:22:40.719> come<01:22:40.880> around<01:22:41.360> And<01:22:41.679> I<01:22:41.920> can

3802
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:42,000
26 is going to come around And I can

3803
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,950
26 is going to come around And I can
guarantee<01:22:42.480> you<01:22:42.800> the<01:22:43.120> message<01:22:43.440> from<01:22:43.920> top<01:22:44.639> is

3804
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:44,960
guarantee you the message from top is

3805
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,870
guarantee you the message from top is
going<01:22:45.040> to<01:22:45.199> be<01:22:45.920> we've<01:22:46.239> got<01:22:46.320> to<01:22:46.480> get<01:22:46.639> some

3806
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:46,880
going to be we've got to get some

3807
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,510
going to be we've got to get some
Democrats<01:22:47.440> in<01:22:47.679> office.<01:22:48.320> 27<01:22:48.800> a<01:22:49.040> legislative

3808
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:49,520
Democrats in office. 27 a legislative

3809
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,470
Democrats in office. 27 a legislative
year,<01:22:50.000> 28<01:22:50.800> Trump's<01:22:51.199> out<01:22:51.360> of<01:22:51.440> office.<01:22:52.159> I<01:22:52.400> think

3810
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:52,480
year, 28 Trump's out of office. I think

3811
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,030
year, 28 Trump's out of office. I think
for<01:22:52.800> 20<01:22:53.280> 2028<01:22:53.920> for<01:22:54.080> me<01:22:54.239> is<01:22:54.480> an<01:22:54.639> enormous

3812
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:55,040
for 20 2028 for me is an enormous

3813
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,870
for 20 2028 for me is an enormous
organizing,<01:22:56.000> you<01:22:56.159> know,<01:22:56.320> year<01:22:56.560> for

3814
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:56,880
organizing, you know, year for

3815
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,350
organizing, you know, year for
potentially<01:22:57.280> a<01:22:57.440> general<01:22:57.679> strike.<01:22:58.480> But<01:22:58.880> for<01:22:59.120> a

3816
01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:59,360
potentially a general strike. But for a

3817
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,430
potentially a general strike. But for a
lot<01:22:59.440> of<01:22:59.520> people,<01:22:59.840> it's<01:23:00.159> just<01:23:00.639> the<01:23:00.880> next<01:23:01.120> big

3818
01:23:01,430 --> 01:23:01,440
lot of people, it's just the next big

3819
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,830
lot of people, it's just the next big
presidential<01:23:02.000> election.<01:23:02.719> and<01:23:02.960> the<01:23:03.199> main<01:23:03.520> mode

3820
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:03,840
presidential election. and the main mode

3821
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,070
presidential election. and the main mode
of<01:23:04.560> sort<01:23:04.800> of<01:23:04.880> organizing<01:23:05.360> for<01:23:05.600> them<01:23:05.760> is<01:23:06.000> going

3822
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:06,080
of sort of organizing for them is going

3823
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,550
of sort of organizing for them is going
to<01:23:06.239> be,<01:23:07.120> you<01:23:07.400> know,<01:23:08.400> something<01:23:08.639> that<01:23:08.880> I

3824
01:23:09,550 --> 01:23:09,560
to be, you know, something that I

3825
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,070
to be, you know, something that I
consider

3826
01:23:11,070 --> 01:23:11,080
consider

3827
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,149
consider
potentially<01:23:12.080> at<01:23:12.239> at<01:23:12.560> best<01:23:12.880> time<01:23:13.280> wasting<01:23:13.840> and

3828
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:14,159
potentially at at best time wasting and

3829
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:17,590
potentially at at best time wasting and
at<01:23:14.400> worst<01:23:15.360> harmful<01:23:15.840> to<01:23:16.159> the<01:23:16.400> working<01:23:16.719> class.

3830
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:17,600
at worst harmful to the working class.

3831
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,870
at worst harmful to the working class.
Do<01:23:17.840> you<01:23:18.000> feel<01:23:18.639> question<01:23:18.960> for<01:23:19.120> everybody<01:23:20.080> that

3832
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:20,880
Do you feel question for everybody that

3833
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,750
Do you feel question for everybody that
um<01:23:21.679> or<01:23:21.840> or<01:23:22.239> how<01:23:22.320> do<01:23:22.480> you<01:23:22.639> believe<01:23:22.960> your<01:23:23.280> work<01:23:23.520> as

3834
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:23,760
um or or how do you believe your work as

3835
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,629
um or or how do you believe your work as
a<01:23:23.920> union<01:23:24.360> organizer<01:23:25.360> intersects<01:23:25.920> with<01:23:26.480> uh

3836
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:26,639
a union organizer intersects with uh

3837
01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:29,270
a union organizer intersects with uh
party<01:23:27.080> politics?<01:23:28.080> Um<01:23:28.400> and<01:23:28.639> do<01:23:28.800> you<01:23:28.960> feel<01:23:29.120> that

3838
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:29,280
party politics? Um and do you feel that

3839
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:37,229
party politics? Um and do you feel that
it<01:23:29.440> can<01:23:29.600> be<01:23:29.760> beneficial<01:23:30.239> or<01:23:30.480> harmful?

3840
01:23:37,229 --> 01:23:37,239


3841
01:23:37,239 --> 01:23:41,350
Um,<01:23:38.239> so<01:23:38.960> I<01:23:39.280> I'm<01:23:39.679> gonna<01:23:40.400> answer<01:23:40.800> and<01:23:41.040> then<01:23:41.199> I'm

3842
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:41,360
Um, so I I'm gonna answer and then I'm

3843
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,830
Um, so I I'm gonna answer and then I'm
gonna<01:23:41.600> hand<01:23:41.840> it<01:23:42.000> to<01:23:42.159> Sam<01:23:42.560> because<01:23:42.960> I<01:23:43.520> think

3844
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:43,840
gonna hand it to Sam because I think

3845
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,510
gonna hand it to Sam because I think
that<01:23:44.320> one<01:23:44.880> of<01:23:45.120> the

3846
01:23:46,510 --> 01:23:46,520
that one of the

3847
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,070
that one of the
really<01:23:47.520> difficult<01:23:48.000> issues<01:23:48.480> for<01:23:48.800> us<01:23:49.440> and<01:23:49.600> and

3848
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:50,080
really difficult issues for us and and

3849
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,590
really difficult issues for us and and
we're<01:23:50.400> here<01:23:51.120> this<01:23:51.360> is<01:23:51.440> the<01:23:51.760> democratic

3850
01:23:52,590 --> 01:23:52,600
we're here this is the democratic

3851
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,750
we're here this is the democratic
socialist<01:23:53.600> function.

3852
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:55,760
socialist function.

3853
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,070
socialist function.
But<01:23:56.000> it's<01:23:56.320> important<01:23:56.560> to<01:23:56.719> realize<01:23:57.199> that<01:23:57.920> I

3854
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:58,080
But it's important to realize that I

3855
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,189
But it's important to realize that I
mean<01:23:58.159> the<01:23:58.480> number<01:23:58.719> of<01:23:59.120> our<01:23:59.520> union<01:24:00.000> members<01:24:00.960> who

3856
01:24:01,189 --> 01:24:01,199
mean the number of our union members who

3857
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:02,350
mean the number of our union members who
are

3858
01:24:02,350 --> 01:24:02,360
are

3859
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,510
are

3860
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:03,600


3861
01:24:04,510 --> 01:24:04,520
socialists is very

3862
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,550
socialists is very
small.<01:24:05.960> Um

3863
01:24:07,550 --> 01:24:07,560
small. Um

3864
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:12,070
small. Um
and<01:24:08.560> I<01:24:09.040> think<01:24:09.199> that<01:24:09.600> is<01:24:09.760> a<01:24:10.000> difficulty.<01:24:10.880> Uh<01:24:11.280> I<01:24:11.600> I

3865
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:12,080
and I think that is a difficulty. Uh I I

3866
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:13,510
and I think that is a difficulty. Uh I I
don't<01:24:12.239> want<01:24:12.320> to<01:24:12.480> call<01:24:12.639> out<01:24:12.880> Brendan,<01:24:13.199> but

3867
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:13,520
don't want to call out Brendan, but

3868
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,270
don't want to call out Brendan, but
Brendan<01:24:13.920> has<01:24:14.159> tried<01:24:14.320> to<01:24:14.480> do<01:24:14.639> some<01:24:14.880> things<01:24:15.040> at

3869
01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:15,280
Brendan has tried to do some things at

3870
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,149
Brendan has tried to do some things at
our<01:24:15.520> state<01:24:15.760> level<01:24:16.880> uh<01:24:17.040> and<01:24:17.440> in<01:24:17.679> within<01:24:18.080> the

3871
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:18,159
our state level uh and in within the

3872
01:24:18,159 --> 01:24:20,229
our state level uh and in within the
union<01:24:18.480> and<01:24:18.800> has<01:24:18.960> faced<01:24:19.280> some<01:24:19.520> really

3873
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:20,239
union and has faced some really

3874
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:22,030
union and has faced some really
significant<01:24:21.120> push

3875
01:24:22,030 --> 01:24:22,040
significant push

3876
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,070
significant push
back<01:24:23.040> because<01:24:23.600> our<01:24:24.280> union<01:24:25.280> is<01:24:25.679> not

3877
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:26,080
back because our union is not

3878
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,149
back because our union is not
politically<01:24:26.880> unified.<01:24:27.840> I<01:24:28.000> mean,<01:24:28.400> we're<01:24:28.719> just

3879
01:24:29,149 --> 01:24:29,159
politically unified. I mean, we're just

3880
01:24:29,159 --> 01:24:32,950
politically unified. I mean, we're just
not.<01:24:30.159> Um<01:24:30.880> I<01:24:31.120> grew<01:24:31.280> up<01:24:31.440> in<01:24:31.679> Ohio<01:24:32.320> where<01:24:32.719> the

3881
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:32,960
not. Um I grew up in Ohio where the

3882
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,030
not. Um I grew up in Ohio where the
labor

3883
01:24:34,030 --> 01:24:34,040
labor

3884
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,550
labor
movement<01:24:35.040> is<01:24:35.280> a<01:24:35.639> pretty<01:24:36.639> socially

3885
01:24:37,550 --> 01:24:37,560
movement is a pretty socially

3886
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,149
movement is a pretty socially
conservative<01:24:38.560> movement.<01:24:39.600> they're<01:24:39.920> going<01:24:40.000> to

3887
01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:40,159
conservative movement. they're going to

3888
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:44,149
conservative movement. they're going to
vote<01:24:41.000> Democratic.<01:24:42.199> But<01:24:43.199> I<01:24:43.520> think<01:24:43.679> one<01:24:43.920> of<01:24:44.000> the

3889
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:44,159
vote Democratic. But I think one of the

3890
01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:46,990
vote Democratic. But I think one of the
questions<01:24:44.480> that<01:24:44.719> we<01:24:44.960> have<01:24:45.199> to<01:24:45.520> address

3891
01:24:46,990 --> 01:24:47,000
questions that we have to address

3892
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,030
questions that we have to address
is<01:24:48.000> can<01:24:48.239> we<01:24:48.480> unify<01:24:48.960> our<01:24:49.199> members

3893
01:24:50,030 --> 01:24:50,040
is can we unify our members

3894
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,270
is can we unify our members
politically?<01:24:51.040> Is<01:24:51.280> that<01:24:51.520> even<01:24:51.920> possible?<01:24:53.040> I

3895
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:53,280
politically? Is that even possible? I

3896
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,550
politically? Is that even possible? I

3897
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:53,679


3898
01:24:55,550 --> 01:24:55,560
mean we have

3899
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,470
mean we have
got<01:24:56.560> members<01:24:56.960> from<01:24:57.199> across<01:24:57.600> the<01:24:57.840> political

3900
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:58,480
got members from across the political

3901
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:01,189
got members from across the political
spectrum<01:24:59.040> and<01:24:59.280> I<01:24:59.520> think<01:24:59.679> in<01:25:00.000> in<01:25:00.719> especially

3902
01:25:01,189 --> 01:25:01,199
spectrum and I think in in especially

3903
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:03,910
spectrum and I think in in especially
when<01:25:01.440> we<01:25:01.600> go<01:25:01.760> to<01:25:01.920> our<01:25:02.159> annual<01:25:02.480> meeting<01:25:03.280> and<01:25:03.679> it

3904
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:03,920
when we go to our annual meeting and it

3905
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,750
when we go to our annual meeting and it
is<01:25:04.320> highway<01:25:04.840> patrol<01:25:05.840> it<01:25:06.000> is<01:25:06.159> parole<01:25:06.760> officers

3906
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:07,760
is highway patrol it is parole officers

3907
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,310
is highway patrol it is parole officers
it<01:25:07.920> is<01:25:08.280> nurses<01:25:09.280> it<01:25:09.440> is<01:25:10.000> it's<01:25:10.320> a<01:25:10.560> whole<01:25:10.800> lot<01:25:10.960> of

3908
01:25:11,310 --> 01:25:11,320
it is nurses it is it's a whole lot of

3909
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,669
it is nurses it is it's a whole lot of
people<01:25:12.520> and<01:25:13.520> to<01:25:13.840> come<01:25:14.080> away<01:25:14.480> with<01:25:14.880> one

3910
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:15,679
people and to come away with one

3911
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:20,629
people and to come away with one
politically<01:25:16.400> unifying<01:25:17.040> theme<01:25:17.920> is<01:25:18.320> so<01:25:19.320> hard<01:25:20.320> I

3912
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:20,639
politically unifying theme is so hard I

3913
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:22,950
politically unifying theme is so hard I
don't<01:25:20.800> even<01:25:21.760> it's<01:25:22.000> something<01:25:22.239> that<01:25:22.480> I<01:25:22.719> kind<01:25:22.880> of

3914
01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:22,960
don't even it's something that I kind of

3915
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,629
don't even it's something that I kind of
struggle<01:25:23.199> with<01:25:23.520> I<01:25:23.679> don't<01:25:23.840> know<01:25:23.920> how<01:25:24.080> to<01:25:24.239> do<01:25:24.400> it.

3916
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:24,639
struggle with I don't know how to do it.

3917
01:25:24,639 --> 01:25:26,590
struggle with I don't know how to do it.
And<01:25:24.800> I'm<01:25:25.040> guessing<01:25:25.360> that<01:25:25.679> in

3918
01:25:26,590 --> 01:25:26,600
And I'm guessing that in

3919
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,189
And I'm guessing that in
forestry<01:25:27.600> you<01:25:27.840> might<01:25:28.000> not<01:25:28.159> be<01:25:28.320> politically

3920
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:29,199
forestry you might not be politically

3921
01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:33,910
forestry you might not be politically
unified<01:25:29.760> around<01:25:30.000> the<01:25:30.239> socialist.

3922
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:33,920


3923
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,390
No.<01:25:34.560> Yeah,<01:25:34.880> absolutely.<01:25:35.600> A<01:25:35.840> lot<01:25:35.920> of<01:25:36.000> the<01:25:36.159> folks

3924
01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:36,400
No. Yeah, absolutely. A lot of the folks

3925
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,270
No. Yeah, absolutely. A lot of the folks
I<01:25:36.639> work<01:25:36.800> with,<01:25:37.520> I<01:25:38.400> can<01:25:38.639> tell<01:25:38.719> you<01:25:38.960> voted

3926
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:39,280
I work with, I can tell you voted

3927
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,750
I work with, I can tell you voted
Republican<01:25:40.000> in<01:25:40.239> the<01:25:40.400> last<01:25:40.560> election.<01:25:41.440> And<01:25:42.480> uh

3928
01:25:42,750 --> 01:25:42,760
Republican in the last election. And uh

3929
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,830
Republican in the last election. And uh
I<01:25:43.760> you<01:25:43.920> know<01:25:44.080> I<01:25:44.239> I<01:25:44.560> don't<01:25:44.719> think<01:25:44.880> that<01:25:45.520> I<01:25:45.760> think

3930
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:45,840
I you know I I don't think that I think

3931
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,350
I you know I I don't think that I think
that<01:25:46.080> in<01:25:46.239> a<01:25:46.320> lot<01:25:46.400> of<01:25:46.480> ways<01:25:46.800> neither<01:25:47.199> the

3932
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:47,360
that in a lot of ways neither the

3933
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:48,870
that in a lot of ways neither the
Republican<01:25:47.760> nor<01:25:48.000> the<01:25:48.159> Democratic<01:25:48.560> party

3934
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:48,880
Republican nor the Democratic party

3935
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,430
Republican nor the Democratic party
represents<01:25:49.360> their<01:25:49.600> interest<01:25:50.400> on<01:25:50.960> a<01:25:51.199> whole

3936
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:51,440
represents their interest on a whole

3937
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:53,110
represents their interest on a whole
variety<01:25:51.760> of<01:25:51.920> issues.<01:25:52.400> But<01:25:52.480> I<01:25:52.639> think<01:25:52.719> that<01:25:52.880> our

3938
01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:53,120
variety of issues. But I think that our

3939
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,790
variety of issues. But I think that our
role<01:25:53.280> as<01:25:53.520> a<01:25:53.679> union<01:25:54.239> that<01:25:54.639> represents<01:25:55.040> a<01:25:55.360> lot<01:25:55.440> of

3940
01:25:55,790 --> 01:25:55,800
role as a union that represents a lot of

3941
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,110
role as a union that represents a lot of
workingclass<01:25:56.800> folks<01:25:57.440> who<01:25:57.840> voted<01:25:58.560> for<01:25:58.880> both

3942
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:59,120
workingclass folks who voted for both

3943
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,030
workingclass folks who voted for both
parties<01:25:59.440> and<01:25:59.679> maybe<01:25:59.920> in<01:26:00.159> a<01:26:00.400> great<01:26:00.639> scenario

3944
01:26:01,030 --> 01:26:01,040
parties and maybe in a great scenario

3945
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,950
parties and maybe in a great scenario
neither<01:26:01.360> party<01:26:02.000> um<01:26:02.080> but<01:26:02.480> hopefully<01:26:02.719> still

3946
01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:02,960
neither party um but hopefully still

3947
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,750
neither party um but hopefully still
voted<01:26:03.600> is<01:26:04.080> accountability.<01:26:04.960> And<01:26:05.199> it's<01:26:05.440> it's

3948
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:05,760
voted is accountability. And it's it's

3949
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,950
voted is accountability. And it's it's
drawing<01:26:06.080> a<01:26:06.400> hard<01:26:06.639> line<01:26:06.880> to<01:26:07.120> say<01:26:07.760> when<01:26:08.080> you<01:26:08.800> do

3950
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:08,960
drawing a hard line to say when you do

3951
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,629
drawing a hard line to say when you do
this,<01:26:09.360> when<01:26:09.600> our<01:26:09.840> repres<01:26:10.320> our<01:26:10.800> representative

3952
01:26:11,629 --> 01:26:11,639
this, when our repres our representative

3953
01:26:11,639 --> 01:26:14,629
this, when our repres our representative
allows<01:26:12.639> 30%<01:26:13.280> of<01:26:13.520> people<01:26:13.760> who<01:26:14.000> are<01:26:14.239> managing

3954
01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:14,639
allows 30% of people who are managing

3955
01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:15,990
allows 30% of people who are managing
something<01:26:14.880> that<01:26:15.040> we<01:26:15.280> all<01:26:15.440> care<01:26:15.520> about<01:26:15.760> like

3956
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:16,000
something that we all care about like

3957
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,270
something that we all care about like
public<01:26:16.239> lands<01:26:16.960> to<01:26:17.679> be<01:26:18.000> fired,<01:26:18.719> to<01:26:18.880> be<01:26:18.960> forced

3958
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:19,280
public lands to be fired, to be forced

3959
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,510
public lands to be fired, to be forced
into<01:26:19.600> retirement,<01:26:20.320> to<01:26:20.560> be<01:26:20.800> harassed<01:26:21.280> out<01:26:21.440> of

3960
01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:21,520
into retirement, to be harassed out of

3961
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,110
into retirement, to be harassed out of
their<01:26:21.760> jobs<01:26:22.320> that<01:26:22.480> there's<01:26:22.800> going<01:26:22.800> to<01:26:22.880> be<01:26:22.960> a

3962
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:23,120
their jobs that there's going to be a

3963
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,350
their jobs that there's going to be a
political<01:26:23.440> price<01:26:23.679> to<01:26:23.840> pay.<01:26:24.400> And<01:26:24.880> um<01:26:25.040> I<01:26:25.280> think

3964
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:25,360
political price to pay. And um I think

3965
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,270
political price to pay. And um I think
the<01:26:25.600> the<01:26:25.920> question<01:26:26.159> of<01:26:26.320> of<01:26:26.800> what<01:26:26.960> you<01:26:27.120> do

3966
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:27,280
the the question of of what you do

3967
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,830
the the question of of what you do
positively<01:26:27.760> after<01:26:28.040> that,<01:26:29.040> the<01:26:29.360> answer<01:26:29.520> is<01:26:29.679> to

3968
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:29,840
positively after that, the answer is to

3969
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,750
positively after that, the answer is to
organize.<01:26:30.560> Um<01:26:30.960> that's<01:26:31.199> what<01:26:31.360> we've<01:26:31.520> been<01:26:31.600> able

3970
01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:31,760
organize. Um that's what we've been able

3971
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,070
organize. Um that's what we've been able
to<01:26:31.840> do<01:26:32.080> so<01:26:32.239> far.<01:26:32.560> Our<01:26:32.960> roles<01:26:33.280> in<01:26:33.440> terms<01:26:33.600> of<01:26:33.679> dues

3972
01:26:34,070 --> 01:26:34,080
to do so far. Our roles in terms of dues

3973
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,149
to do so far. Our roles in terms of dues
paying<01:26:34.400> members<01:26:35.120> as<01:26:35.360> a<01:26:35.520> proportion<01:26:35.840> of<01:26:36.000> the

3974
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:36,159
paying members as a proportion of the

3975
01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:38,149
paying members as a proportion of the
members<01:26:36.400> that<01:26:36.639> we<01:26:36.880> represent<01:26:37.520> have<01:26:37.840> almost

3976
01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:38,159
members that we represent have almost

3977
01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:40,550
members that we represent have almost
doubled<01:26:38.560> in<01:26:38.800> the<01:26:38.880> last<01:26:39.040> 3<01:26:39.280> months.<01:26:39.679> And<01:26:40.239> when

3978
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:40,560
doubled in the last 3 months. And when

3979
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,470
doubled in the last 3 months. And when
people<01:26:40.880> are<01:26:41.280> attacking<01:26:41.760> the<01:26:42.080> people<01:26:42.239> who

3980
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:42,480
people are attacking the people who

3981
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:43,910
people are attacking the people who
provide<01:26:42.800> public<01:26:43.040> services<01:26:43.440> or<01:26:43.600> the<01:26:43.760> people

3982
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:43,920
provide public services or the people

3983
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:44,950
provide public services or the people
you<01:26:44.080> work<01:26:44.159> with,<01:26:44.480> that<01:26:44.560> should<01:26:44.719> be<01:26:44.800> an

3984
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:44,960
you work with, that should be an

3985
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,189
you work with, that should be an
organizing<01:26:45.440> opportunity.<01:26:46.400> And<01:26:46.639> when<01:26:46.880> our

3986
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:47,199
organizing opportunity. And when our

3987
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:48,709
organizing opportunity. And when our
representatives<01:26:47.760> aren't<01:26:48.080> saying<01:26:48.239> a<01:26:48.480> damn

3988
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:48,719
representatives aren't saying a damn

3989
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:50,470
representatives aren't saying a damn
thing<01:26:48.880> about<01:26:49.120> the<01:26:49.280> things<01:26:49.440> we<01:26:49.679> care<01:26:49.920> about

3990
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:50,480
thing about the things we care about

3991
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:51,750
thing about the things we care about
being<01:26:50.719> attacked,<01:26:51.199> that<01:26:51.360> should<01:26:51.440> be<01:26:51.600> an

3992
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:51,760
being attacked, that should be an

3993
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,669
being attacked, that should be an
opportunity<01:26:52.080> for<01:26:52.360> accountability.<01:26:53.360> And<01:26:53.520> I

3994
01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:53,679
opportunity for accountability. And I

3995
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:55,510
opportunity for accountability. And I
think<01:26:53.840> that's<01:26:54.000> the<01:26:54.159> productive<01:26:54.560> role<01:26:55.040> that<01:26:55.360> we

3996
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:55,520
think that's the productive role that we

3997
01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:01,910
think that's the productive role that we
can<01:26:55.679> play<01:26:56.239> in<01:26:56.480> representing<01:26:56.960> everybody.

3998
01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:01,920


3999
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,270
Oh,<01:27:02.159> I<01:27:02.400> I<01:27:02.960> uh<01:27:03.040> we're<01:27:03.360> a<01:27:03.600> private<01:27:04.239> uh<01:27:04.400> we're<01:27:04.639> an

4000
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:05,280
Oh, I I uh we're a private uh we're an

4001
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,750
Oh, I I uh we're a private uh we're an
we're<01:27:05.440> an<01:27:05.600> independent.<01:27:06.480> Uh<01:27:06.800> if<01:27:07.120> I<01:27:07.360> advocate

4002
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:07,760
we're an independent. Uh if I advocate

4003
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,910
we're an independent. Uh if I advocate
for<01:27:08.239> the<01:27:08.400> union<01:27:08.639> can't<01:27:09.040> our<01:27:09.280> if<01:27:09.520> our<01:27:09.679> union

4004
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:09,920
for the union can't our if our union

4005
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,350
for the union can't our if our union
advocates<01:27:10.320> for<01:27:10.480> anything<01:27:10.719> politically,<01:27:11.199> we

4006
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:11,360
advocates for anything politically, we

4007
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,430
advocates for anything politically, we
have<01:27:11.440> to<01:27:11.600> start<01:27:11.760> paying<01:27:12.080> taxes.<01:27:12.880> And<01:27:13.040> as<01:27:13.280> the

4008
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:13,440
have to start paying taxes. And as the

4009
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:14,950
have to start paying taxes. And as the
treasurer<01:27:13.760> of<01:27:13.920> my<01:27:14.080> organization,<01:27:14.639> I<01:27:14.800> would

4010
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:14,960
treasurer of my organization, I would

4011
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,910
treasurer of my organization, I would

4012
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:15,280


4013
01:27:16,910 --> 01:27:16,920
like to avoid

4014
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:21,110
like to avoid
that.<01:27:17.920> So<01:27:18.639> on<01:27:18.800> my<01:27:19.679> my<01:27:19.920> own<01:27:20.159> personal<01:27:20.560> stance<01:27:20.880> is

4015
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:21,120
that. So on my my own personal stance is

4016
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,430
that. So on my my own personal stance is
I<01:27:21.360> completely<01:27:21.840> agree<01:27:22.320> and<01:27:22.560> I<01:27:22.880> would<01:27:23.120> advocate

4017
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:23,440
I completely agree and I would advocate

4018
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:25,750
I completely agree and I would advocate
for<01:27:23.760> perhaps<01:27:24.239> complete<01:27:24.639> anarchy<01:27:25.120> if<01:27:25.360> at<01:27:25.520> all

4019
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:25,760
for perhaps complete anarchy if at all

4020
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,070
for perhaps complete anarchy if at all
possible.<01:27:26.719> Um<01:27:28.080> uh<01:27:28.239> but<01:27:28.560> yes.<01:27:28.880> Yeah.<01:27:29.120> Um,<01:27:29.600> I

4021
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:30,080
possible. Um uh but yes. Yeah. Um, I

4022
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,750
possible. Um uh but yes. Yeah. Um, I
don't<01:27:30.320> know<01:27:30.480> what<01:27:30.719> we<01:27:30.880> could<01:27:31.040> do<01:27:31.199> apart<01:27:31.520> from

4023
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:31,760
don't know what we could do apart from

4024
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,390
don't know what we could do apart from
just<01:27:32.080> keep<01:27:32.400> moving<01:27:32.719> the<01:27:32.960> Overton<01:27:33.600> window<01:27:34.159> back

4025
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:34,400
just keep moving the Overton window back

4026
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,470
just keep moving the Overton window back
to<01:27:34.639> the<01:27:34.880> left<01:27:35.679> and<01:27:36.560> keep<01:27:37.120> reassuring<01:27:37.760> people

4027
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:38,480
to the left and keep reassuring people

4028
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:40,149
to the left and keep reassuring people
and<01:27:38.719> keep<01:27:39.040> realizing<01:27:39.360> that<01:27:39.520> a<01:27:39.679> lot<01:27:39.840> of<01:27:39.920> people

4029
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:40,159
and keep realizing that a lot of people

4030
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,229
and keep realizing that a lot of people
operate<01:27:40.560> in<01:27:40.880> self-interest.<01:27:41.679> I<01:27:41.840> keep<01:27:42.080> trying

4031
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:42,239
operate in self-interest. I keep trying

4032
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:45,270
operate in self-interest. I keep trying
to<01:27:42.880> get<01:27:43.120> that<01:27:43.280> in<01:27:43.520> my<01:27:43.679> mind<01:27:44.159> and<01:27:44.480> that<01:27:44.880> neither

4033
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:45,280
to get that in my mind and that neither

4034
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,270
to get that in my mind and that neither
party<01:27:45.679> really<01:27:46.000> right<01:27:46.239> now<01:27:46.560> there<01:27:46.800> is<01:27:46.880> a<01:27:47.040> weird

4035
01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:47,280
party really right now there is a weird

4036
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,030
party really right now there is a weird
flux<01:27:47.679> moment.<01:27:47.920> I<01:27:48.080> think<01:27:48.239> that<01:27:48.400> neither<01:27:48.719> party

4037
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:49,040
flux moment. I think that neither party

4038
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,669
flux moment. I think that neither party
owns<01:27:49.440> the<01:27:49.760> idea<01:27:50.000> of<01:27:50.159> being<01:27:50.800> for<01:27:51.120> the<01:27:51.280> working

4039
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:51,679
owns the idea of being for the working

4040
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:53,750
owns the idea of being for the working
class<01:27:52.159> and<01:27:52.400> I<01:27:52.639> think<01:27:52.719> that<01:27:52.960> there<01:27:53.120> might<01:27:53.360> be<01:27:53.520> a

4041
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:53,760
class and I think that there might be a

4042
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,149
class and I think that there might be a
need<01:27:54.480> that<01:27:54.719> can<01:27:54.880> be<01:27:55.120> filled<01:27:55.440> by<01:27:55.679> a<01:27:55.920> better

4043
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:56,159
need that can be filled by a better

4044
01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:00,910
need that can be filled by a better
idea.<01:27:57.040> Yeah.<01:27:57.280> All<01:27:57.360> right.

4045
01:28:00,910 --> 01:28:00,920


4046
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,030
Well,<01:28:01.920> on<01:28:02.159> that<01:28:02.480> note,

4047
01:28:04,030 --> 01:28:04,040
Well, on that note,

4048
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,790
Well, on that note,
um,<01:28:05.040> thank<01:28:05.199> you.<01:28:05.600> Let's<01:28:05.920> give<01:28:06.080> a<01:28:06.320> big<01:28:06.480> round<01:28:06.639> of

4049
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:06,800
um, thank you. Let's give a big round of

4050
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:13,590
um, thank you. Let's give a big round of
applause.

4051
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:13,600


4052
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,229
You<01:28:13.840> guys<01:28:13.920> have<01:28:14.080> been<01:28:14.320> great<01:28:14.800> and<01:28:15.280> thank<01:28:15.520> you

4053
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:16,239
You guys have been great and thank you

4054
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:19,669
You guys have been great and thank you
good<01:28:16.560> work<01:28:16.800> for<01:28:17.040> your<01:28:17.280> service<01:28:17.679> here.<01:28:18.400> And

4055
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:19,679
good work for your service here. And

4056
01:28:19,679 --> 01:28:23,030
good work for your service here. And
yeah,<01:28:20.199> absolutely.<01:28:21.199> And<01:28:21.840> uh,<01:28:22.080> Rachel<01:28:22.639> Rachel

4057
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:23,040
yeah, absolutely. And uh, Rachel Rachel

4058
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,629
yeah, absolutely. And uh, Rachel Rachel
has<01:28:23.280> something<01:28:23.520> to<01:28:23.760> say<01:28:24.000> here.

4059
01:28:26,629 --> 01:28:26,639
has something to say here.

4060
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:30,550
has something to say here.
Hi.<01:28:27.120> Uh<01:28:27.920> my<01:28:28.159> name<01:28:28.239> is<01:28:28.480> Rachel<01:28:29.040> Calero<01:28:29.600> Navaro.

4061
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:30,560
Hi. Uh my name is Rachel Calero Navaro.

4062
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,350
Hi. Uh my name is Rachel Calero Navaro.
I'm<01:28:30.880> one<01:28:31.040> of<01:28:31.199> two<01:28:31.600> co-chairs<01:28:32.560> uh<01:28:32.719> at<01:28:32.960> Western

4063
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:33,360
I'm one of two co-chairs uh at Western

4064
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,709
I'm one of two co-chairs uh at Western
Montana<01:28:34.040> DSA.<01:28:35.040> Um<01:28:35.520> great<01:28:35.840> work<01:28:36.159> everyone<01:28:36.480> for

4065
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:36,719
Montana DSA. Um great work everyone for

4066
01:28:36,719 --> 01:28:39,270
Montana DSA. Um great work everyone for
coming<01:28:37.040> tonight.<01:28:37.920> Um<01:28:38.400> we<01:28:38.719> are<01:28:38.880> a<01:28:39.040> pretty

4067
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:39,280
coming tonight. Um we are a pretty

4068
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:43,750
coming tonight. Um we are a pretty
active<01:28:40.239> uh<01:28:40.800> chapter.<01:28:41.520> Uh<01:28:41.920> we<01:28:42.239> have<01:28:43.280> uh<01:28:43.440> a<01:28:43.679> lot

4069
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:43,760
active uh chapter. Uh we have uh a lot

4070
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,990
active uh chapter. Uh we have uh a lot
of<01:28:43.920> events<01:28:44.320> coming<01:28:44.560> up.<01:28:44.960> Um<01:28:45.280> we<01:28:45.520> have<01:28:45.600> a<01:28:45.760> lot<01:28:45.840> of

4071
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:46,000
of events coming up. Um we have a lot of

4072
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,990
of events coming up. Um we have a lot of
working<01:28:46.239> groups<01:28:46.960> um<01:28:47.040> that<01:28:47.280> are<01:28:47.440> doing<01:28:47.679> a<01:28:47.840> lot

4073
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:48,000
working groups um that are doing a lot

4074
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,189
working groups um that are doing a lot
of<01:28:48.080> great<01:28:48.320> work.<01:28:49.120> Um,<01:28:49.840> obviously<01:28:50.719> this<01:28:50.960> was

4075
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:51,199
of great work. Um, obviously this was

4076
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:54,070
of great work. Um, obviously this was
kind<01:28:51.360> of<01:28:51.440> put<01:28:51.600> on<01:28:51.840> by<01:28:52.000> our<01:28:52.239> labor<01:28:53.360> uh<01:28:53.760> working

4077
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:54,080
kind of put on by our labor uh working

4078
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,709
kind of put on by our labor uh working
group<01:28:54.400> in<01:28:54.639> conjunction<01:28:55.280> with<01:28:55.600> our<01:28:56.159> social<01:28:56.480> and

4079
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:56,719
group in conjunction with our social and

4080
01:28:56,719 --> 01:28:59,189
group in conjunction with our social and
outreach<01:28:57.199> group<01:28:57.520> that<01:28:58.159> um<01:28:58.320> puts<01:28:58.560> on<01:28:58.800> events

4081
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:59,199
outreach group that um puts on events

4082
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:01,110
outreach group that um puts on events
like<01:28:59.360> this<01:28:59.679> and<01:29:00.000> also<01:29:00.320> we're<01:29:00.560> the<01:29:00.800> people<01:29:00.960> who

4083
01:29:01,110 --> 01:29:01,120
like this and also we're the people who

4084
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,590
like this and also we're the people who
call<01:29:01.360> you<01:29:01.520> and<01:29:01.679> say<01:29:01.920> hey<01:29:02.080> come<01:29:02.239> do<01:29:02.480> this<01:29:02.719> thing.

4085
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:03,600
call you and say hey come do this thing.

4086
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,590
call you and say hey come do this thing.
Um<01:29:04.480> we<01:29:04.880> have<01:29:05.040> a<01:29:05.280> bunch<01:29:05.600> of<01:29:06.560> uh<01:29:06.960> events<01:29:07.360> coming

4087
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:07,600
Um we have a bunch of uh events coming

4088
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,990
Um we have a bunch of uh events coming
up.<01:29:07.920> Um<01:29:08.159> but<01:29:08.400> before<01:29:08.639> I<01:29:08.880> talk<01:29:09.040> about<01:29:09.199> that<01:29:09.760> um

4089
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:10,000
up. Um but before I talk about that um

4090
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,590
up. Um but before I talk about that um
let<01:29:10.159> me<01:29:10.320> just<01:29:10.639> quickly<01:29:11.040> talk<01:29:11.199> about<01:29:11.360> our

4091
01:29:11,590 --> 01:29:11,600
let me just quickly talk about our

4092
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,229
let me just quickly talk about our
working<01:29:11.920> groups.<01:29:12.800> So,<01:29:13.199> like<01:29:13.360> I<01:29:13.520> said,<01:29:13.840> labor

4093
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:14,239
working groups. So, like I said, labor

4094
01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:16,229
working groups. So, like I said, labor
working<01:29:14.480> group.<01:29:15.120> Um,<01:29:15.440> if<01:29:15.679> you're<01:29:15.840> interested

4095
01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:16,239
working group. Um, if you're interested

4096
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,629
working group. Um, if you're interested
in<01:29:16.400> joining<01:29:16.800> or<01:29:17.120> if<01:29:17.280> you<01:29:17.360> want<01:29:17.600> to<01:29:18.000> uh<01:29:18.159> organize

4097
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:18,639
in joining or if you want to uh organize

4098
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:21,669
in joining or if you want to uh organize
your<01:29:18.880> workplace,<01:29:19.679> grab<01:29:20.000> one<01:29:20.159> of<01:29:20.239> these.<01:29:21.199> Um,

4099
01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:21,679
your workplace, grab one of these. Um,

4100
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:23,430
your workplace, grab one of these. Um,
if<01:29:21.920> you're<01:29:22.080> interested,<01:29:22.560> if<01:29:22.719> you're<01:29:22.960> if<01:29:23.199> you

4101
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:23,440
if you're interested, if you're if you

4102
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:25,910
if you're interested, if you're if you
just<01:29:23.600> are<01:29:23.920> like,<01:29:24.239> what<01:29:24.480> is<01:29:24.760> capitalism?<01:29:25.760> Then

4103
01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:25,920
just are like, what is capitalism? Then

4104
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,790
just are like, what is capitalism? Then
grab<01:29:26.159> one<01:29:26.400> of<01:29:26.520> these.<01:29:27.520> Um,<01:29:28.480> and<01:29:29.120> uh<01:29:29.280> we<01:29:29.600> have<01:29:30.480> a

4105
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:30,800
grab one of these. Um, and uh we have a

4106
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,149
grab one of these. Um, and uh we have a
newly<01:29:31.280> formed<01:29:32.560> uh<01:29:32.960> ecosocialist<01:29:33.840> working

4107
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:34,159
newly formed uh ecosocialist working

4108
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:37,110
newly formed uh ecosocialist working
group.<01:29:34.639> Um,<01:29:35.360> we're<01:29:36.000> working<01:29:36.320> on<01:29:36.800> doing

4109
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:37,120
group. Um, we're working on doing

4110
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,709
group. Um, we're working on doing
something<01:29:37.360> like<01:29:37.760> weed<01:29:38.080> pools,<01:29:39.360> um,<01:29:39.760> and<01:29:40.159> some

4111
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:40,719
something like weed pools, um, and some

4112
01:29:40,719 --> 01:29:43,669
something like weed pools, um, and some
hikes<01:29:41.199> and<01:29:41.520> possibly<01:29:42.080> like<01:29:42.880> mushroom

4113
01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:43,679
hikes and possibly like mushroom

4114
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:46,310
hikes and possibly like mushroom
gathering,<01:29:44.320> stuff<01:29:44.560> like<01:29:44.800> that.<01:29:45.520> Um,<01:29:45.920> but<01:29:46.159> if

4115
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:46,320
gathering, stuff like that. Um, but if

4116
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,790
gathering, stuff like that. Um, but if
you<01:29:46.480> don't<01:29:46.639> know<01:29:46.719> what,<01:29:47.120> uh,<01:29:47.400> eosocialism<01:29:48.400> is,

4117
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:48,800
you don't know what, uh, eosocialism is,

4118
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,910
you don't know what, uh, eosocialism is,
we<01:29:49.040> have<01:29:49.199> one<01:29:49.360> of<01:29:49.520> these,<01:29:49.760> a<01:29:49.960> little.<01:29:51.040> Um<01:29:51.600> we

4119
01:29:51,910 --> 01:29:51,920
we have one of these, a little. Um we

4120
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,550
we have one of these, a little. Um we
also<01:29:52.239> have<01:29:52.560> a<01:29:52.880> editorial<01:29:53.520> and<01:29:53.920> communication

4121
01:29:54,550 --> 01:29:54,560
also have a editorial and communication

4122
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,390
also have a editorial and communication
working<01:29:54.880> group<01:29:55.520> um<01:29:55.679> that<01:29:56.080> writes<01:29:57.280> uh<01:29:57.840> very<01:29:58.080> a

4123
01:29:58,390 --> 01:29:58,400
working group um that writes uh very a

4124
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,910
working group um that writes uh very a
lot<01:29:58.639> of<01:29:59.199> uh<01:29:59.639> editorials<01:30:00.639> and<01:30:01.040> we<01:30:01.280> have<01:30:01.440> a<01:30:01.679> new

4125
01:30:01,910 --> 01:30:01,920
lot of uh editorials and we have a new

4126
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,990
lot of uh editorials and we have a new
zen<01:30:02.800> of<01:30:03.280> the<01:30:03.520> best<01:30:03.840> of<01:30:04.800> uh<01:30:05.120> editorial<01:30:05.679> working

4127
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:06,000
zen of the best of uh editorial working

4128
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,629
zen of the best of uh editorial working
group<01:30:06.320> volume<01:30:06.719> one.<01:30:07.440> Um<01:30:07.840> so<01:30:08.080> grab<01:30:08.320> one<01:30:08.480> of

4129
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:08,639
group volume one. Um so grab one of

4130
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:13,750
group volume one. Um so grab one of
these.<01:30:09.560> Um,<01:30:10.560> if<01:30:10.880> you<01:30:11.280> if<01:30:11.600> if<01:30:12.000> this<01:30:12.480> was<01:30:12.880> really

4131
01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:13,760
these. Um, if you if if this was really

4132
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,350
these. Um, if you if if this was really
um<01:30:14.080> inspiring<01:30:14.639> to<01:30:14.880> you<01:30:15.360> and<01:30:15.840> if<01:30:16.159> you<01:30:16.639> also<01:30:17.120> are

4133
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:17,360
um inspiring to you and if you also are

4134
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,390
um inspiring to you and if you also are
like,<01:30:18.080> "God,<01:30:18.560> nobody<01:30:19.199> really<01:30:19.600> aligns<01:30:20.080> with<01:30:20.239> me

4135
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:20,400
like, "God, nobody really aligns with me

4136
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,830
like, "God, nobody really aligns with me
anymore.<01:30:21.199> Democrats,<01:30:22.440> Republicans,<01:30:23.440> be<01:30:23.679> a

4137
01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:23,840
anymore. Democrats, Republicans, be a

4138
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:28,189
anymore. Democrats, Republicans, be a
socialist."

4139
01:30:28,189 --> 01:30:28,199


4140
01:30:28,199 --> 01:30:31,990
Um<01:30:29.199> Um<01:30:29.679> but<01:30:29.920> we<01:30:30.159> do<01:30:30.400> have<01:30:31.040> uh<01:30:31.280> every<01:30:31.520> year<01:30:31.760> we

4141
01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:32,000
Um Um but we do have uh every year we

4142
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,950
Um Um but we do have uh every year we
have<01:30:32.080> an<01:30:32.320> annual<01:30:32.800> barbecue<01:30:33.440> for<01:30:33.679> Mayday.<01:30:34.560> Um

4143
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:34,960
have an annual barbecue for Mayday. Um

4144
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,310
have an annual barbecue for Mayday. Um
it<01:30:35.199> is<01:30:35.520> this<01:30:35.920> Saturday<01:30:36.320> at<01:30:36.560> Kowanas<01:30:37.199> Park<01:30:37.520> at<01:30:37.840> 1

4145
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:38,320
it is this Saturday at Kowanas Park at 1

4146
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,270
it is this Saturday at Kowanas Park at 1
uh<01:30:38.480> pm<01:30:38.800> from<01:30:39.040> 1<01:30:39.280> to<01:30:39.440> 5.<01:30:39.840> So<01:30:40.239> if<01:30:40.400> you're<01:30:40.639> around,

4147
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:41,280
uh pm from 1 to 5. So if you're around,

4148
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,070
uh pm from 1 to 5. So if you're around,
join<01:30:41.600> us.<01:30:41.840> It's<01:30:42.000> potluck<01:30:42.560> style.<01:30:43.360> Um<01:30:43.760> if<01:30:44.000> you

4149
01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:44,080
join us. It's potluck style. Um if you

4150
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:45,990
join us. It's potluck style. Um if you
want<01:30:44.239> to<01:30:44.400> do<01:30:44.560> one<01:30:44.719> of<01:30:44.800> our<01:30:45.040> meetings,<01:30:45.600> uh<01:30:45.760> grab

4151
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:46,000
want to do one of our meetings, uh grab

4152
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,750
want to do one of our meetings, uh grab
one<01:30:46.159> of<01:30:46.480> this.<01:30:46.719> This<01:30:46.960> thing<01:30:47.199> has<01:30:47.440> all<01:30:47.600> the

4153
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:47,760
one of this. This thing has all the

4154
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,910
one of this. This thing has all the
info,<01:30:48.000> but<01:30:48.480> social<01:30:48.719> and<01:30:48.960> outreach<01:30:49.360> meeting<01:30:49.679> is

4155
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:49,920
info, but social and outreach meeting is

4156
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,310
info, but social and outreach meeting is
on<01:30:50.159> Monday<01:30:50.480> the<01:30:50.719> 5th.<01:30:51.280> Our<01:30:51.520> monthly<01:30:51.920> member

4157
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:52,320
on Monday the 5th. Our monthly member

4158
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,510
on Monday the 5th. Our monthly member
meeting<01:30:52.800> is<01:30:53.199> on<01:30:53.360> the<01:30:53.600> 10th.<01:30:54.239> Uh<01:30:54.560> ecosocialist

4159
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:55,520
meeting is on the 10th. Uh ecosocialist

4160
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,990
meeting is on the 10th. Uh ecosocialist
meeting<01:30:55.760> is<01:30:56.000> on<01:30:56.159> May<01:30:56.400> 12th<01:30:56.800> at<01:30:56.960> Goodworks.<01:30:57.760> Uh

4161
01:30:57,990 --> 01:30:58,000
meeting is on May 12th at Goodworks. Uh

4162
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,669
meeting is on May 12th at Goodworks. Uh
and<01:30:58.159> then<01:30:58.320> our<01:30:58.560> labor<01:30:58.880> working<01:30:59.199> group<01:30:59.440> meeting

4163
01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:59,679
and then our labor working group meeting

4164
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and then our labor working group meeting
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is on May 21st. Um, so yeah, uh, great

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is on May 21st. Um, so yeah, uh, great
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work incoming everyone. And if you have

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work incoming everyone. And if you have
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any questions, just locate a person

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any questions, just locate a person

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One<01:31:16.639> more<01:31:16.800> announcement<01:31:17.679> just<01:31:17.840> want<01:31:18.000> to<01:31:18.080> say

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One more announcement just want to say

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One more announcement just want to say
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on the one hand thank you to MCAT miss

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on the one hand thank you to MCAT miss
television

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television

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television
for

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for

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for
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video and thank you to Free Cycles our

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video and thank you to Free Cycles our
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sponsor

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sponsor
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and if you're um on the way out that way

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and if you're um on the way out that way
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there is a donation box for free cycles

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there is a donation box for free cycles
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please donate them because they are by

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please donate them because they are by
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